This leaves a lot of questions about many things

I got the following from Jonathan Gray.......


WHY AREN'T WE TOLD?

“Radiometric dating?” snorted Ray. “It’s useless in dating
the past!”

“What do you mean… useless?” I asked.

“Look,” said Ray. “I’ll give you an example. Human remains
found deep in the delta deposit near New Orleans, Louisiana,
were dated at 57,000 years – but when wood from the gunwhale
of a Kentucky flatboat was found deeper, the 57,000 years
shrank to 200 or less.

“You’re kidding!” I exclaimed.

“No, that was true. And do you know, C-14 dating of Egyptian
pharaohs’ tombs have registered mummies 500 years ‘older’
than their sarcophagi! And grains older than the containers
in which they were found.”

A field archaeologist must not take anything for granted.
This was something I had to check out.

During many years of living in Australia, I made several visits
to the island state of Tasmania. I know of a farmer near the
town of Burnie who was removing some fence posts on his
property. These had been set in the ground less than 100 years
earlier.

He discovered that the in-ground portion of each post had
actually opalised.

The farmer mischievously sent samples of the petrified wood
to two Australian institutions, asking them to date the wood.
The institutions were La Trobe University in Melbourne and
the National University in Canberra.

The two labs dated the two specimens at two vastly different
ages – one insisting that the wood was 100,000 years old. When
the farmer protested that this was definitely not so, he was
assured that this HAD to be the age of the wood!

These kind of things began to get me worried. What was going
on here? Can you see? Something is wrong – drastically wrong.  
This kind of evidence should be enough to discredit the
system.

WHO IS BEHIND THIS DECEPTION?

I won’t bore you with how dating systems are worked out. But
I can tell you these. Most ages obtained by one method
DISAGREE with the ages obtained by other methods. For example,
most radiometric “ages” don’t match fossil “ages”.

But what about carbon dating? You ask. Carbon dating is used
to determine how long ago something died.

A series of measurements of samples of known age, extending
back about 3,800 years, has shown fairly good agreement. But
something dramatic occurred on earth about 4,300 years ago
to upset this. And beyond that time, dating figures run wild.

COVER-UP

This may shock you, but a cover-up is in full swing. The
carbon-14 technique, during its development, uncovered some
startling, publicly undisclosed, evidence of an earth far
younger than you and I have been told.

There is a group of men will a philosophical mindset that
needs to bolster the evolution theory at all costs. And this
includes deceiving you and me, covering up evidence, and even
dumping a boat load of evidence in the Carribean Sea!

They are playing you and me for suckers. And many of us have
been swallowing it.

Just get this, will you? The same piece of basalt rock from
Nigeria gave ages (by different methods) from 2 to 750 million
years. (Nature Physical Science, vol.232, pp.60-61)

In eight separate tests, scientists dated samples of rock –
and arrived at ages of 160 million to 3 billion years.  These
specimens, from Kaupelehu, Hualalai Volcano, Hawaii, were later
found to have formed in a lava flow only 168 years earlier,
in 1801. (Science, vol.162, p.265. Journal of Geophysical
Research, vol.73, p.4601. American Journal of Science, vol.262,
p.154)

Rock samples from twelve volcanoes in Russia and ten samples
from other parts of the world (all known to be less than 200
years old), gave ages by the uranium-thorium-to lead method
varying from millions to billions of years.

Suppose you were admitted to hospital. And after tests were made,
the doctors each gave you a different, contradictory diagnosis…
would you trust them to operate on you?

You’ve got to be kidding.

Now I’m worried.  These dating tests… have we been too trusting?

Think about it. If rocks of KNOWN ages yield such unrealistic
dates, why should we accept so gullibly the ages yielded by rocks
of UNKNOWN age?

What bothers me is this. We have otherwise cautious scientists
gulping down these datings about as avidly as the most gullible
amateurs.

Something is wrong here – drastically wrong – with our dating
systems.  If a construction engineer came up with contradictory
calculations like that, he would be dismissed from the construction
job.

Henry Faul, writing in Nuclear Geology, says:

“MOST of the ages obtained by the lead: thorium method DISAGREE
with the ages of the same minerals computed by other lead methods.”
(Henry Faul, Nuclear Geology, p. 295)

TRUST us, they say. Our DATING is fine. The naivity of that claim
is so breathtaking, I need a glass of water.

And if you introduce a catastrophe (such as a global Deluge), then the
present state of the earth’s crust has not resulted from long aeons of
uniformity, but largely by natural processes acting on a mega scale
during the Deluge.

The truth is, every dating method we operate today is invalid as a
scientific test for the past. So when you’re told a certain date has been
proved, you’re hearing someone who either doesn’t understand the
scientific test, or who (hopefully not) is deliberately lying to you.

Discordant dates (and that’s most of the tests) are not publicised.

How do you feel when you discover you’ve been cheated? Here is
information that is known to a few at the top – but not told to us.

This is an interesting, informative post. What is your opinion about the dinosaur fossils? I was under the impression that they were usually deep enough in the ground that it would take millions upon millions of years for all that sediment to form over the remains anyway.

I have no answer for that as yet. I am finding that many things that have been taught as factual history has been changed from the actual happening. Not so much from the winner of the battle but because of changing the direction or removing the spotlight away from being able to see the criminal element within the cause.

For instance, watch this video with their spotlight on paganism destroying Christianity and the true meaning of Christmas and then see it from the viewpoint of what one person states inside the video.  "Myths by definition evolve and things change and/or added".  Take this statement and apply it to their "proof" of Christianity or any other religion.  The Book.   The book is in 3 parts and written by different groups.  Hebrew old testament called something else, and the christian old testament, and their new testament.  The same thing they are hammering in the video they have done and are using the life of a man and turning his life into magic and miracles of untruth and myths.  Actually I personally think today the actual man has been changed into a thought form created by group consciousness as well as the character called Satan.  Satan is another thought form created by group consciousness to fit a purpose for a select group.   But keep all this in mind as you watch this......post your thoughts if any but I hope you begin to view things from this way of comparing history and the programming machine that operates on the planet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZAL80TMLaE&feature=share

Not to take away the light regarding the initial post but use this as illustration how we need to dig deeper into info that is presented every place towards us.

we have a saying here of which i thought it was a more widespread one: history is written by the winner.

to me that means nothing we know is tru or at least open for debate.

the weirdest thing with this is though that ofter one discovers an untruth, one (the new winner) rewrites it and it eventually becomes the new untruth...

as for carbon dating, ive known this for a while.
makes some funny bells ring thoug, not sure why, but this is one of the bells:


there are also more stories about 'wrong' datings.
for example if one studies medieval history in europe on will find that the timelines wont fit with geneology research. also combining the arab and europe timelines makes a lot of gaps in time.

and then of course there is the tale of timetravelers who are trying to make up for their wrongs or are working on a better future for who knows who or what. wich to me is like healing the past with reiki....

also since you mention australia in your post, ive read somewhere( not sure where) and had a vision about egyptians being in australia meeting up with the people who live there. lots of things are left out of common knowledge. sometimes for a reason sometimes because its just to boring to remember


owww and as a side note: dont worry about the cia, they are just as curious..  

that is a sickening display and another example of dealing with the base elements to keep the planet in slavery and out of higher vibrations.

wasnt it post on this site somewhere the aset ka and the order of set are dangerous and work in mysterious ways????

all vibrations are there to be used and all are just as valiable...

Maxx what you said about the man being a thoughtform really made sense. I remember the one video you linked where the idea of the demiurge was explained, and like him, the Christian Satan may be its own demiurge of a sort.

Its funny how Satan and Lucifer can be so different.

I suggest you re-evaluate, 8lou1.

i suggest i do not...

Mixing sanity with insanity will not merit or advance your position.  It will only draw attention to the problem.  I will no longer overlook or address any of your problems that you seem to display off and on here. I will leave this to others as this seems to have become something you may need help with from other sources than what one would find on this forum.

sorry to hear thot, i have no problems thank you verry much and say hi to uncle fester for me. hes much more fun then i would have ever thought...

@Sraindrop........"Its funny how Satan and Lucifer can be so different".

how true.  I was shown in two different scenes last night that telling someone the truth in all cases does no good until a certain point of realization occurs they will be unable to see a wider view of what is happening.  Hence, programming is a very important part of keeping the lower thinking in place.

I agree Maxx.  Scientific and historical debate regarding timelines is definitely flawed. Take the "Seven Pagodas", considered a myth in India, Europe, and other parts of the world for over eleven centuries.

Indian historian Ramaswami wrote in his 1993 book Temples of South India that evidence of 2000 years of civilization, 40 currently visible monuments, including two “open air bas reliefs,” and related legends spreading through both South Asia and Europe caused people to build up Mahabalipuram’s mystery in their minds. He stated “There is no sunk city in the waves off Mamallapuram. The European name, ‘The Seven Pagodas,’ is irrational and cannot be accounted for”

So the numerous accounts of local Tamils stating they had seen the submerged city “glittering beneath the waves” from their fishing boats was just too fanciful and irrational? When will the world realise “The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. “


Then there is the Yonaguni pyramid off the coast of Japan. Some believe, the Yonaguni pyramid sank into the ocean at the end of the last ice age, around ten thousand years ago. However, American geologists contended that the structure was not manmade, but a natural formation.

The problem with all of this for western scientists is that it implies that an unknown eastern culture might of developed a high degree of organization thousands of years before the earliest western civilizations.

The extent of the historical basis of the Iliad has been a topic of scholarly debate for centuries. While researchers of the 18th century largely rejected the story of the Trojan war as myth, the discoveries made by Heinrich Schliemann reopened the debate and the subsequent excavation of Troy VIIa along with the discovery of the “Wilusa “Hittite correspondence has made it plausible that the Trojan War cycle was remotely based on a historical conflict, even if the poems of Homer are removed from the event by more than four centuries of oral tradition.

The site of Hisarlik, in northwest Turkey, has been identified as being Troy since ancient times.  “There is no one single Troy; there are at least 10, lying in layers on top of each other,” writes University of Amsterdam researcher Gert Jan van Wijngaarden in a chapter of the book "Troy: City, Homer and Turkey" (University of Amsterdam, 2013).

The earths true past is buried deep, beneath ancient ruins, dirt or water. Mother earth likes to keep us guessing   and she does this via catastrophic events / upheavals.

Interesting accounts and examples. I have seen the pyramid photos off the coast of Japan. No way that is a natural item.

An interesting link :

Coming One Day Near You - A Mega Tsunami

The coastal cities that we are familiar with today would more than likely of been rural areas before the great flood.  It goes without saying the higher density population of the ancient world would have been much like it is today, predominantly situated in and around coastal areas. Today approximately 3 billion people — about half of the world's population — live within 200 kilometers of a coastline.