To engage or not to engage?
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To engage or not to engage?
I have been combing through these threads for quite some time now, trying to learn anything I can about Asetianism. As I have posted before, the Asetian Bible and Book of Orion have changed my life tremendously.
However, it has strengthened some of the traits I already had before becoming more interested in spirituality. Such as intolerance. I have found that my intolerance to ignorance and vanity is ever-increasing, after my tiny glimpse into this path.
Anyway, the frivolous attempts others are constantly making at drawing themselves into the spotlight and dressing up to make themselves feel like vampires, make me feel as though I almost have to speak up, at least once, for the sake of educational debate. It has become apparent to me, through experiences with these never-ending role-play debates, that there really is no point to such arguments, regardless of how tempting they are. Why waste energy trying to nail jello to the wall? I have felt it wise to speak up, perhaps to shed a bit of light on the futility of fashion- and vanity-based paths, but isn't it all a waste in the end? When it only sparks outrage and swearing, ruffling the feathers of the ego-driven? You cannot force them to wake up...
Rambling aside, here are my main questions: what purpose does intolerance serve in the bigger picture? Is it okay to be intolerant, or is such behavior the mark of an un-evolved, stagnant being? I have uncovered more of myself... and my true Self really just wants to remove the sugar coating from everything, opinions of others be damned.
My new opinion on this is... sugar coating serves me a great purpose overall. If I were to be blunt with everyone, I would lose every strategic advantage I have with all my relationships. I am posting this because I think I might be deep into the Abyss everyone talks about. I am posting because I wanted to provide a personal account of what it feels like to be devoured from the inside. Here is an aspect of the danger everyone mentions at some point. This path revealed a part of me that is actually quite dark. I saw through myself... realized my so-called "sweet" nature was really just a mask, for the purpose of deceiving people (not those close to me) into thinking I was something else, for the purpose of achieving my own ends. And all of this made me wonder if I shouldn't be a bit more sympathetic to those frou-frou role players. Not everyone is ready for this... to get a glimpse of who they really are. Heck, I'm not even sure if I am ready for this... but I'll continue on regardless.
Well... this got a little more personal than I expected. But anyway... thanks to this community for teaching me so much. I never expected a forum would help me learn this way.
However, it has strengthened some of the traits I already had before becoming more interested in spirituality. Such as intolerance. I have found that my intolerance to ignorance and vanity is ever-increasing, after my tiny glimpse into this path.
Anyway, the frivolous attempts others are constantly making at drawing themselves into the spotlight and dressing up to make themselves feel like vampires, make me feel as though I almost have to speak up, at least once, for the sake of educational debate. It has become apparent to me, through experiences with these never-ending role-play debates, that there really is no point to such arguments, regardless of how tempting they are. Why waste energy trying to nail jello to the wall? I have felt it wise to speak up, perhaps to shed a bit of light on the futility of fashion- and vanity-based paths, but isn't it all a waste in the end? When it only sparks outrage and swearing, ruffling the feathers of the ego-driven? You cannot force them to wake up...
Rambling aside, here are my main questions: what purpose does intolerance serve in the bigger picture? Is it okay to be intolerant, or is such behavior the mark of an un-evolved, stagnant being? I have uncovered more of myself... and my true Self really just wants to remove the sugar coating from everything, opinions of others be damned.
My new opinion on this is... sugar coating serves me a great purpose overall. If I were to be blunt with everyone, I would lose every strategic advantage I have with all my relationships. I am posting this because I think I might be deep into the Abyss everyone talks about. I am posting because I wanted to provide a personal account of what it feels like to be devoured from the inside. Here is an aspect of the danger everyone mentions at some point. This path revealed a part of me that is actually quite dark. I saw through myself... realized my so-called "sweet" nature was really just a mask, for the purpose of deceiving people (not those close to me) into thinking I was something else, for the purpose of achieving my own ends. And all of this made me wonder if I shouldn't be a bit more sympathetic to those frou-frou role players. Not everyone is ready for this... to get a glimpse of who they really are. Heck, I'm not even sure if I am ready for this... but I'll continue on regardless.
Well... this got a little more personal than I expected. But anyway... thanks to this community for teaching me so much. I never expected a forum would help me learn this way.
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Re: To engage or not to engage?
When it comes to Asetianism, there is no color problems, age or culture. All are welcome and everyone is valued when they're honest and loyal. Therefore, the Asetianism is not about choices of human beings nor has preference for a certain kind of soul, for them, the most important is loyalty and respect. We embrace the path of violet wisdom and many revelations are made over the years. I see the same scenario in my life, I don't care if people are evolved or not, are sorcerers or if some are blind believers in religion, the most important thing for me is the way they treat me, if they respect me the rest is not important. I understand that many do not have the strength to overcome barriers and that sometimes takes more time than most people to take the first step, All beings are different, nothing better than hanging out with people of our style, our reality, but, if we don't have that opportunity, I don't see why we can't be happy and want what we can't have. I thank the universe the opportunity for giving me such difficult people to deal with and still be able to triumph with effort and dedication on my spirituality. My family is all Christian, are devout and only accept Christianity around them. I still like them and deal with the difference of beliefs, as I said in the beginning, the most important thing is the way they treat me and I them. There's a lot that I do not share, not because they do not accept, but because it has more beauty and purity in the silence of my heart.
There is no problem to engage.
There is no problem to engage.
Re: To engage or not to engage?
Hi Rhea Kaye.
Yes, There is always some one, who will step in, in all kinds of spotlights, wannabe vampire or not. But there must be, persons that chooses, to be a spokes person or leaders for a Organisation or an Order. Take for example, Louis Marques, He is a literary genius and he is a spokes person for Aset Ka, and i will bet, that in private, he is a humble and non egocentric, serving member, of Aset Ka. I understand
where your reaction and your bluntness comes from,
unprovoked or not.
Drake
Yes, There is always some one, who will step in, in all kinds of spotlights, wannabe vampire or not. But there must be, persons that chooses, to be a spokes person or leaders for a Organisation or an Order. Take for example, Louis Marques, He is a literary genius and he is a spokes person for Aset Ka, and i will bet, that in private, he is a humble and non egocentric, serving member, of Aset Ka. I understand
where your reaction and your bluntness comes from,
unprovoked or not.
Drake
Re: To engage or not to engage?
Forgiveness is not for the worms of disloyalty
Pity them not! Pity is for the weak
Trust is not for those unable to conquer it
Blame them not! Blame is when you care
Power is not for those unable to respect it
Curse them not! Curses are for enemies
Now, you stand above
Sebayt 3 XVI
Pity them not! Pity is for the weak
Trust is not for those unable to conquer it
Blame them not! Blame is when you care
Power is not for those unable to respect it
Curse them not! Curses are for enemies
Now, you stand above
Sebayt 3 XVI
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Re: To engage or not to engage?
Hello Rhea. I totally understand how you feel when dealing with role players as I have dealt my fair share with those sorts. The ego trips can be very irritating and sometimes we feel like we're talking to a wall no matter how carefully we try to explain them.
While I can see your dilemma there let me tell you not to limit yourself or restrict from what you are drawn to do or say. If others disagree don't let that stop you and if you get the urge to speak by all means do so. There's nothing wrong with speaking your mind especially when it comes to speaking the truth and making a stand. I said that many times before in this forum when we used to get visits of those sorts or in situations that I exposed the falsehood in the fake vampire community, my opinion is that even if the ones arguing won't learn from what you're trying to teach and explain there are others that may be reading you in silence may benefit from it. If a newbie comes along with an interest in vampirism and reads your post here or in another community it may help him make the right choices and see things from a more evolved perspective. Remember that the internet is this huge collection of knowledge and perspectives and what we write will stay for the future so lets add to it and at least make it a better collection among so many wrong things. People willing to speak up are needed and valuable in my book so don't let that trouble you.
While I can see your dilemma there let me tell you not to limit yourself or restrict from what you are drawn to do or say. If others disagree don't let that stop you and if you get the urge to speak by all means do so. There's nothing wrong with speaking your mind especially when it comes to speaking the truth and making a stand. I said that many times before in this forum when we used to get visits of those sorts or in situations that I exposed the falsehood in the fake vampire community, my opinion is that even if the ones arguing won't learn from what you're trying to teach and explain there are others that may be reading you in silence may benefit from it. If a newbie comes along with an interest in vampirism and reads your post here or in another community it may help him make the right choices and see things from a more evolved perspective. Remember that the internet is this huge collection of knowledge and perspectives and what we write will stay for the future so lets add to it and at least make it a better collection among so many wrong things. People willing to speak up are needed and valuable in my book so don't let that trouble you.
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Re: To engage or not to engage?
Thanks everyone for providing such meaningful responses. They will definitely be helpful.
As far as the Book of Orion quote goes... ironically enough, I found it last night right after I posted this. The book has proven to be difficult but rewarding... also, the meanings behind certain messages seem to elude me until I am spiritually ready for me. It is quite interesting how the book works.
As far as the Book of Orion quote goes... ironically enough, I found it last night right after I posted this. The book has proven to be difficult but rewarding... also, the meanings behind certain messages seem to elude me until I am spiritually ready for me. It is quite interesting how the book works.
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*Spiritually ready for THEM. Sorry for the typo ![Very Happy](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_biggrin.png)
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