Signs of low energy

Aghrab wrote:Since many times a Guardian may not become as fragile as a Viperine, in a state with low energy, since I would imagine a Viperine near collapse if his energy has lowered to an unacceptable state, perhaps their low energy would show through their emotions and behaviours. Being themselves beings that are always thirsty for Love and sexual energy, usually through Tantric Feeding, I would imagine that need in them to be pushed to the extreme, when their energies are very low.

Aghrab

sorry to bring up an old topic, but if a guardian- lets say he/she is in a relationship with the lack of seksual energies and sensuality towards each other... as we know the guardians are very very loyal.
When we put it to the extreme. lets say some years pases by and it`s no better in the relationship.
do you think a Guardian could be unfaithfull in the end just to feed properly..
hope you can understand what i`m asking about?

Proxy

Proxy wrote:sorry to bring up an old topic, but if a guardian- lets say he/she is in a relationship with the lack of seksual energies and sensuality towards each other... as we know the guardians are very very loyal.
When we put it to the extreme. lets say some years pases by and it`s no better in the relationship.
do you think a Guardian could be unfaithfull in the end just to feed properly..
hope you can understand what i`m asking about?

Proxy

Never.
Guardian's loyalty comes above everything, making it so beautiful and unique, as well as difficult to understand for mortals, that are so basic. And this everything is literal, not the fake everything humans feel, say and do. The loyalty of a Scorpion is put above everything else, even her own life. This is not something forced, taught or even the choice of a lifestyle, but just how they are at their very core. It cannot be changed.

The Love and Loyalty of a Guardian makes every human couple and every mother's love seem small and insignificant, sometimes even pathetic. That is why Guardians are so cherished, admired and praised, not only by mankind that is jealous of their beauty, but also among their own Asetian kin, that treats them with the utmost respect and love.

Victor wrote:

Proxy wrote:sorry to bring up an old topic, but if a guardian- lets say he/she is in a relationship with the lack of seksual energies and sensuality towards each other... as we know the guardians are very very loyal.
When we put it to the extreme. lets say some years pases by and it`s no better in the relationship.
do you think a Guardian could be unfaithfull in the end just to feed properly..
hope you can understand what i`m asking about?

Proxy

Never.
Guardian's loyalty comes above everything, making it so beautiful and unique, as well as difficult to understand for mortals, that are so basic. And this everything is literal, not the fake everything humans feel, say and do. The loyalty of a Scorpion is put above everything else, even her own life. This is not something forced, taught or even the choice of a lifestyle, but just how they are at their very core. It cannot be changed.

The Love and Loyalty of a Guardian makes every human couple and every mother's love seem small and insignificant, sometimes even pathetic. That is why Guardians are so cherished, admired and praised, not only by mankind that is jealous of their beauty, but also among their own Asetian kin, that treats them with the utmost respect and love.

Are you saying that Guardians are only women ?

Sincerely Divine 277

Divine 277 wrote:Are you saying that Guardians are only women ?

Sincerely Divine 277

No, just that they are mostly women. But this applies to all Asetians, not just Guardians. Why should I say he when talking about a being that could be a male or a female? Just because our society and modern language is centered around the concept and power of men, doesn't mean I have to follow. There is nothing wrong in using she, or her, when referring to a general concept that can be male or female, especially one known to be predominantly female.

Victor wrote:

Divine 277 wrote:Are you saying that Guardians are only women ?

Sincerely Divine 277

No, just that they are mostly women. But this applies to all Asetians, not just Guardians. Why should I say he when talking about a being that could be a male or a female? Just because our society and modern language is centered around the concept and power of men, doesn't mean I have to follow. There is nothing wrong in using she, or her, when referring to a general concept that can be male or female, especially one known to be predominantly female.

I `m not saying anything, I just asked you a question, so it wouldn't be any misunderstandings.


Sincerely Divine 277

While Guardians are very sexual beings, it does not mean they require sex. Asetians have desires and feelings just like any human, but the manner in which they feel them are entirely different. Sex is their preferred and often their expertise in the realm of feeding, but going behind their love's back for it is unfathomable.

This is not to say that Asetians follow the socially created dogma of absolute sexuality towards one person and one person only, but usually I imagine that once an Asetian is with his/her love, there is no need to seek others for anything material/physical. If one does wish to have relations with another person, the Guardian would most definitely be making the decision with the blessings of his/her love. In my opinion.

Just a quick side question since it was mentioned. It has been mentioned quite a few times that most Asetians are women. I do not remember reading that in the AB, though maybe it was. If so, then where?

Ahhh, I can't keep up with everything.

N.Augusta wrote:Just a quick side question since it was mentioned. It has been mentioned quite a few times that most Asetians are women. I do not remember reading that in the AB, though maybe it was. If so, then where?

Ahhh, I can't keep up with everything.

I do not believe it is in the AB, N. It could be a supposition, or someone may know it from a source that I don't know.

N.Augusta wrote:Just a quick side question since it was mentioned. It has been mentioned quite a few times that most Asetians are women. I do not remember reading that in the AB, though maybe it was. If so, then where?

Ahhh, I can't keep up with everything.

Although an amazing and pure source of Asetian information, the Asetian Bible is not the only way to gather knowledge on this ancient tradition. Master Marques' ethereal work was publicly published in 2007, but there were people studying the Asetian culture for many years, and even decades, before its publishing. Some of those people are part of this forum, others are hard to reach, but all dwell in the depths of the occult underground that cannot be found in forums.

Before the dawn of the Asetian Bible and the available online information that came with the young Djehuty of the Serpent, there were established groups, usually very private in nature, that studied the magick of the Asetians and their hidden history for many years. As old time scholars of these subjects and path, they found their own sources and ways to study along the years. Vampirism is a very ancient tradition within the occult realm, and groups dedicated to its research, or sometimes just to watch the immortals in silence, without interference, is something that exists in secrecy for centuries.

Victor wrote:

N.Augusta wrote:Just a quick side question since it was mentioned. It has been mentioned quite a few times that most Asetians are women. I do not remember reading that in the AB, though maybe it was. If so, then where?

Ahhh, I can't keep up with everything.

Although an amazing and pure source of Asetian information, the Asetian Bible is not the only way to gather knowledge on this ancient tradition. Master Marques' ethereal work was publicly published in 2007, but there were people studying the Asetian culture for many years, and even decades, before its publishing. Some of those people are part of this forum, others are hard to reach, but all dwell in the depths of the occult underground that cannot be found in forums.

Before the dawn of the Asetian Bible and the available online information that came with the young Djehuty of the Serpent, there were established groups, usually very private in nature, that studied the magick of the Asetians and their hidden history for many years. As old time scholars of these subjects and path, they found their own sources and ways to study along the years. Vampirism is a very ancient tradition within the occult realm, and groups dedicated to its research, or sometimes just to watch the immortals in silence, without interference, is something that exists in secrecy for centuries.

( My mind is saying : hmmm....Almost sound like something I saw in a movie once, I think It was Queen of the dammed ...... )

So what you literary saying, is that there are experts on the forum but that we don't know who they are, except you off course ?

How do you suppose that people know who to trust ?

Or Is the hole point, to mislead people ?

Understand that these questions appear in my mind, and Im not assuming anything... but I am curious .... to the answers...


Sincerely Divine 277

Divine 277 wrote:

Victor wrote:

N.Augusta wrote:Just a quick side question since it was mentioned. It has been mentioned quite a few times that most Asetians are women. I do not remember reading that in the AB, though maybe it was. If so, then where?

Ahhh, I can't keep up with everything.

Although an amazing and pure source of Asetian information, the Asetian Bible is not the only way to gather knowledge on this ancient tradition. Master Marques' ethereal work was publicly published in 2007, but there were people studying the Asetian culture for many years, and even decades, before its publishing. Some of those people are part of this forum, others are hard to reach, but all dwell in the depths of the occult underground that cannot be found in forums.

Before the dawn of the Asetian Bible and the available online information that came with the young Djehuty of the Serpent, there were established groups, usually very private in nature, that studied the magick of the Asetians and their hidden history for many years. As old time scholars of these subjects and path, they found their own sources and ways to study along the years. Vampirism is a very ancient tradition within the occult realm, and groups dedicated to its research, or sometimes just to watch the immortals in silence, without interference, is something that exists in secrecy for centuries.

( My mind is saying : hmmm....Almost sound like something I saw in a movie once, I think It was Queen of the dammed ...... )

So what you literary saying, is that there are experts on the forum but that we don't know who they are, except you off course ?

How do you suppose that people know who to trust ?

Or Is the hole point, to mislead people ?

Understand that these questions appear in my mind, and Im not assuming anything... but I am curious .... to the answers...


Sincerely Divine 277

I did not say I am one of those experts. I just mentioned what is out there. One of those people would be Maktub, very well known and respected among the older users in this community, who has developed for years research work on the field in Egypt concerning vampirism, particularly the Asetian mysticism and history. Another would be our honorable admin Elendor, who has worked for VWG in the past (I am unaware of his current affiliation, and would leave that up to him and his right to privacy), that is an organization known to be in activity for at least a century and known under different names. That's just to mention two of the more obvious... but there are more. No one being mislead, or any points in the hole.

Now, does all of this remind you of whatever movie and you have no clue of what the hell I am talking about? Then come back to this thread when you have climbed enough up the ladder so that you will find sense out of things without the need to rely on vampire movies.

You asked how you can find in who to trust? Obviously I am not here to teach you that.

I rely hoped you took the first part , as a joke humor is important , you know....

I didn't imply that you were one, like I said it was a question....

I am completely content whit your answer, so I thank you for taking the time

I'm not saying I need teaching, I say: I live to learn and the best way to do so Is to ask questions

Sincerely Divine 277

Daniel09 wrote:While Guardians are very sexual beings, it does not mean they require sex. Asetians have desires and feelings just like any human, but the manner in which they feel them are entirely different. Sex is their preferred and often their expertise in the realm of feeding, but going behind their love's back for it is unfathomable.

This is not to say that Asetians follow the socially created dogma of absolute sexuality towards one person and one person only, but usually I imagine that once an Asetian is with his/her love, there is no need to seek others for anything material/physical. If one does wish to have relations with another person, the Guardian would most definitely be making the decision with the blessings of his/her love. In my opinion.

I share the same view in this subject.

Divine 277 wrote:
Or Is the hole point, to mislead people ?

Victor wrote:
No one being mislead, or any points in the hole.

Small gems... small gems.

Victor wrote:

Proxy wrote:sorry to bring up an old topic, but if a guardian- lets say he/she is in a relationship with the lack of seksual energies and sensuality towards each other... as we know the guardians are very very loyal.
When we put it to the extreme. lets say some years pases by and it`s no better in the relationship.
do you think a Guardian could be unfaithfull in the end just to feed properly..
hope you can understand what i`m asking about?

Proxy

Never.
Guardian's loyalty comes above everything, making it so beautiful and unique, as well as difficult to understand for mortals, that are so basic. And this everything is literal, not the fake everything humans feel, say and do. The loyalty of a Scorpion is put above everything else, even her own life. This is not something forced, taught or even the choice of a lifestyle, but just how they are at their very core. It cannot be changed.

The Love and Loyalty of a Guardian makes every human couple and every mother's love seem small and insignificant, sometimes even pathetic. That is why Guardians are so cherished, admired and praised, not only by mankind that is jealous of their beauty, but also among their own Asetian kin, that treats them with the utmost respect and love.

what if the guardian not yet is awaken.. there for not really a guardian yet?

If one is awake or not, one is still a Guardian. That never changes.

Proxy wrote:

Victor wrote:

Proxy wrote:sorry to bring up an old topic, but if a guardian- lets say he/she is in a relationship with the lack of seksual energies and sensuality towards each other... as we know the guardians are very very loyal.
When we put it to the extreme. lets say some years pases by and it`s no better in the relationship.
do you think a Guardian could be unfaithfull in the end just to feed properly..
hope you can understand what i`m asking about?

Proxy

Never.
Guardian's loyalty comes above everything, making it so beautiful and unique, as well as difficult to understand for mortals, that are so basic. And this everything is literal, not the fake everything humans feel, say and do. The loyalty of a Scorpion is put above everything else, even her own life. This is not something forced, taught or even the choice of a lifestyle, but just how they are at their very core. It cannot be changed.

The Love and Loyalty of a Guardian makes every human couple and every mother's love seem small and insignificant, sometimes even pathetic. That is why Guardians are so cherished, admired and praised, not only by mankind that is jealous of their beauty, but also among their own Asetian kin, that treats them with the utmost respect and love.

what if the guardian not yet is awaken.. there for not really a guardian yet?

A Guardian is always a Guardian. You can't expect a Guardian to act against what defines their very core, with or without awakening. Loyalty is the foundation of their immortal soul. There are many things that surely do change after the awakening, but loyalty is not one of them. That is born with them, engraved deeply. Without loyalty, there is no Guardian.

Same thing applies to their anti-social ways. It may get stronger and more defined after the awakening, but it is part of their personality since birth.

The awakening does not create an Asetian, it simply defined their traits in a stronger way and awakens latent powers and hidden abilities. It doesn't make them a different being.

Jonathan wrote:
A Guardian is always a Guardian. You can't expect a Guardian to act against what defines their very core, with or without awakening. Loyalty is the foundation of their immortal soul. There are many things that surely do change after the awakening, but loyalty is not one of them. That is born with them, engraved deeply. Without loyalty, there is no Guardian.

Same thing applies to their anti-social ways. It may get stronger and more defined after the awakening, but it is part of their personality since birth.

The awakening does not create an Asetian, it simply defined their traits in a stronger way and awakens latent powers and hidden abilities. It doesn't make them a different being.

Well said. Though an Asetian will become more defined after the awakening, beforehand they still are Asetian, whether they know it or not. Becoming aware of the Asetian tradition changes nothing about who they are, unless you are perhaps imagining about Concubines, of whom sometimes need to learn to be more elitist like their family. :p

N.Augusta wrote:
If one is awake or not, one is still a Guardian. That never changes.

yes i can see that a guardian is a guardian no matter what, but i still do not aree with victors statementb on the subject

what i mean is that there are room for error because nothing is perfect. not even the Gods themselves.

Proxy wrote:

N.Augusta wrote:
If one is awake or not, one is still a Guardian. That never changes.

yes i can see that a guardian is a guardian no matter what, but i still do not aree with victors statementb on the subject

what i mean is that there are room for error because nothing is perfect. not even the Gods themselves.

It's not about them being perfect. It's about them having that as a fundamental part of their being. If you've done it, then it's not likely you're a Guardian. I'm just sayin...

That's exactly how Daniel said. It is not about perfection, it is just how they are. They don't have to try and be that way, it has no effort on their end. They simply are.

Someone doing efforts to be that way and doing mistakes as you call them, would just be someone trying to be a Guardian. And yes, there are many who try to copy them...

You difficulty to comprehend this just works as an example on how you could never be a Guardian.

And there's nothing worst than lying to yourself.

Jonathan wrote:That's exactly how Daniel said. It is not about perfection, it is just how they are. They don't have to try and be that way, it has no effort on their end. They simply are.

Someone doing efforts to be that way and doing mistakes as you call them, would just be someone trying to be a Guardian. And yes, there are many who try to copy them...

You difficulty to comprehend this just works as an example on how you could never be a Guardian.

are we having fun now...

cool down......

AndreiaLi wrote:And there's nothing worst than lying to yourself.

Agree... but lets keep the thread chall we

Daniel09 wrote:

Proxy wrote:

N.Augusta wrote:
If one is awake or not, one is still a Guardian. That never changes.

yes i can see that a guardian is a guardian no matter what, but i still do not aree with victors statementb on the subject

what i mean is that there are room for error because nothing is perfect. not even the Gods themselves.

It's not about them being perfect. It's about them having that as a fundamental part of their being. If you've done it, then it's not likely you're a Guardian. I'm just sayin...

now... why do we still talk about it... is this realy important.. ??