Truly becoming frustrated at the increase of "Unstable" persons wandering into this forum.

[Tehom]

I have a great deal of respect for this particular place, and seeing it disrespected by those with a complete lack of self-control is insulting to me. I am not formally requesting something be done about it by the admins, do what thou wilt on the matter. I just needed to "vent" on the subject. I hope that this is productive in some form.

Years on and the childish still wander where they do not belong. There should, in my opinion, be harsher consequences for such foolish actions.


To all new members of this forum whom may or may not be reading this currently, I sternly request that you give thought to what you will say here - after obtaining perspective challenging information from this site as a bare minimum of a requirement - before you say it. This should undoubtedly give you greater knowledge to where you have come to, and turn you away should it develop that you are simply not mentally fit for it.

Thank you for reading.

[Jonathan]

I tend to agree with what you're saying. Did something specific happen though or do you mind explaining what recent actions moved you into creating this thread?

I'm certainly no admin so can't be of much help there but I have been around here for a really long time and think I might be amongst the oldest members, so if there are concerns we can all discuss it together and find the best solution for all and the community.

[Leelahel]

Thank you, Tehom. I agree with your opinion. I believe that with the verbal attacks and public calling out, all it does is distract from the purpose of higher learning. These random users coming in are looking for attention, making the conversations about themselves. We can do our part by reporting anything completely out of line to a moderator.

[Tehom]

Jonathan,

I wouldn't say a singular incident moved me to make this post, rather my navigating throughout the forum on many an occasion and continuously seeing the same sort of hogwash clogging the off-topic section that inevitably receives the same response time and time again, from the same, presumably young and confused, people. E.g, "Hello, I just made a new vampire clan and I'm looking for members" etc etc etc.. "I represent *enter nonexistent House or general fantasy organization here*.." "I'm a 400 year old teenage vampire that lives forever, I was turned in.." "I demand respect for this and that reason.."

I suppose I quite arrogantly perceive it as children throwing toys in a temple clearly not made for children, teenagers behaving inappropriately in a library with little concern for the others whom have come there to learn. No matter the amount that are thrown out on their rear ends, more come, and do the same. Ad infinitum, I hope not. Regardless, this is clearly a hotspot for serious discussion, and sometimes less-serious discussion, but with reason all the same. There is simply no reason to be found in the actions of most of these roleplayers and what-have-yous because they are not interested in the pursuit of academia, only their own fantasies and make-believe worlds that they are stupid enough to try and project in a place like this one.

I hope not to return here two years from now only to see "I am a 8000 vampire princess living in a castle and I've come to claim ownership of this forum" (or something similar), but until it becomes possible to prevent the not-so-well-collected from discovering locations such as this one, that hope will be foolish to have.

These are all of my own personal views on the matter, however, and they stand to be as objectively wrong as any others. Again, I am but voicing some frustration on the matter, I hold no expectations for what may or may not come of it. Thank you for reading.

[Nightshade]

I agree. This is really not the place for roleplayers or anyone lacking maturity for higher spiritual pursuits.

I admit however that it must be hard for the administration to keep that in check as this is a major forum recognized throughout many communities out there. What is discussed here frequently catches high scores in google searches and tracking, making it even worse. Keeping content here as solid as it is must be a neverending work I imagine.

[Jonathan]

What is discussed here frequently catches high scores in google searches and tracking, making it even worse. Keeping content here as solid as it is must be a neverending work I imagine.

While that is definitely true and I've been following Google searches for the discussions in this forum for a few years, something very strange happened recently. All the threads and topics I used to find from here while searching Google suddenly disappeared from inquiries. Even stranger is that the site is completely missing from Google and it says it doesn't exist at all. Almost feels like something tricky is going on behind the scenes to silence this community.

Is the ROS gaining influence or any sort of control over Google? lol

[Nightshade]

That is really strange Jonathan. Only recently the search results were all over the place in most queries related to vampirism, now there are none. They're all invisible as if nothing exists. Something is going on...

[Jessamine]

That is very strange. On Yahoo and Bing it is 1. result...

[Jonathan]

That is very strange. On Yahoo and Bing it is 1. result...

Exactly. Bing, Yahoo and other search engines display a lot of results from this forum, often as the first find among many subjects. Only Google is hiding it all. I sense another scam form those who seek to silence us all for long.

[Naverya]

It's quite strange, because I've just came around now to check on the forum while having similar thoughts about something going on somewhere behind the scenes... and I see this topic here.

[Heruset]

This forum has become a joke.


"Just a small note directly from the Aset Ka to anyone seriously and maturely seeking the true Asetian knowledge.

There is no Asetian or anyone directly involved with the work, teachings and projects from the Aset Ka exposing or debating information related with magick, vampirism or spirituality, anywhere outside of the Order's internal and official network, temples and havens."

[Nightshade]

This forum has become a joke.


"Just a small note directly from the Aset Ka to anyone seriously and maturely seeking the true Asetian knowledge.

There is no Asetian or anyone directly involved with the work, teachings and projects from the Aset Ka exposing or debating information related with magick, vampirism or spirituality, anywhere outside of the Order's internal and official network, temples and havens."

And who the hell claimed to be involved with the Aset Ka?

[Naverya]

This forum has become a joke.


"Just a small note directly from the Aset Ka to anyone seriously and maturely seeking the true Asetian knowledge.

There is no Asetian or anyone directly involved with the work, teachings and projects from the Aset Ka exposing or debating information related with magick, vampirism or spirituality, anywhere outside of the Order's internal and official network, temples and havens."

And who the hell claimed to be involved with the Aset Ka?

Yep, I'm curious too.

[Heruset]

Who claimed anyone has?

[Nightshade]

Then I fail to understand your comment and reference. The official Asetian remark has nothing to do with it. This forum is for occultists of any kind, as long as serious about it, where many happen to also be Asetianists.

[Heruset]

Self proclaimed. The Aset Ka wouldn't approve of this site as knowledge worthy (to give or receive).

[Heruset]

The AK also says to seek Truth, go to the source, etc etc, all you Asetianists know.

So why is this forum seemingly as asleep as the rest of the world, only acknowledging a few "deeper" insights while the Truth is debated and is unspoken of? Silence is stronger.

[Nightshade]

Self proclaimed. The Aset Ka wouldn't approve of this site as knowledge worthy (to give or receive).

What you're saying makes no sense. Obviously this forum is not official or related with the Aset Ka. That's known to everyone. From what I can tell nothing here was ever pretended to be part of the order or affiliated. Besides, if the Aset Ka wanted to close this down they could do so as they've done with several other places.

So why is this forum seemingly as asleep as the rest of the world, only acknowledging a few "deeper" insights while the Truth is debated and is unspoken of? Silence is stronger.

So just because this is not an official forum we can't really discuss Asetianism, magick and spirituality? Again that doesn't make much sense to me. In fact if that's all so silly to you and only silence is stronger why are you even here making a point that is pointless?

[Heruset]

It's not pointless if you look past your ego.

The Aset Ka doesn't care about bickering on websites. I never said they'd shut it down.
It isn't even worth that. Why would they put any energy into something useless to them?

You can discuss it, but none of these things on this forum are facts or true knowledge. Yet people speak as they know everything.


PS
Can you link me to references showing where the ASET KA shut down other places as they would have closed this this one?

[Jessamine]

From a marketing point of view this site is not useless for AK, because it spreads the word about their books. I bought the AB because I found this forum, and other people here have too. I would say a nice number of sales came from this forum. And by that I don't mean just like from a monetary point but knowledge. This forum helps spread the word, and it had pretty good SEO with regular vampire like keywords you find it faster than the AK page. And if they didn't care about their message spreading around the world, they wouldnt get the books out in the first place.

So I just wanted to say from this point of view it is not useless to them.

I know of some youtube channels they "shut down" you can find them, just search in youtube for aset ka or asetian, I don't remember well I found this some time ago. (they have written in description that they had to take down videos)

And everyone knows what they know. Someones truth is another mans lie. we see this everyday and everywhere. We choose what we want to accept. I just try not to get emotional about it xD

*puts down tin foil hat* jk xD

[Heruset]

If the Aset Ka wants marketing, they'd market.
No, they don't want their knowledge known by everyone.
No, they don't want everyone to read their books.

What you're saying is they've shut no one down, with proof at least.

Truth is Truth. Lies are lies. If it isn't true for all it can't be true at all. There are pieces of information we gain and lose but we should accept things based on scientific evidence rather than accepting what we choose.

Seeing something every day and everywhere doesn't make it the truth.

[Jessamine]

You missed the point I tried to make, but it doesn't matter really.

I know what I said, as I was writing my post, thank you.

*puts on tin foil hat*
I would like to point out that in this topic many times you "spoke" in the name of AK. Some were citations and some were your interpretations of their point of view on the topic.
So you seem to be the one who has all the knowledge. Like you were talking about yourself. I don't mean in a bad way.
We had a nice conspiracy theory going and you started with the bickering.
It seems like something is bothering you, and I don't know if you have a bad day or if we are the problem.
I always enjoyed reading your posts and what you are saying now seems out of character.

I still like this forum, I do not have a big social life and reading all your experiences brings me joy

[Heruset]

I got your point, but I disagreed.

I don't get the tin foil hat reference to be honest.
I never meant to "speak" for the Aset Ka or in their name, but as I speak on topics relating to them I guess it does seem that way when I get passionate sometimes.

However I do not say people are wrong etc. about their opinions
I don't claim that I have the ultimate answers
I don't claim to have any answers but subjective perspectives.

I don't have a problem with you.
I don't have a problem with today.

I do have a problem with some members here thinking they are high and mighty.

Of course, "newbs" and fakes shouldn't be claiming things they know nothing about etc. but that's the world. The people here who are truly knowledgeable recognize the fakes and others. They should recognize true knowledge if they are on the right track of this path.

Or any path.

I think I made my point but I'm not sure if I came across right.

This forum can be useful and interesting, it can be helpful, and insightful.

However, it hasn't been for a while.

[Jessamine]

Okay, I get what you are saying now. It didn't come across to me like this before.

We can start nice new topics and hope they don't turn in monologues xD

[Heruset]

Lol, they always will be monologues when people don't want to input. They are lurking though 😌

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