Energy - a good feeling

I would like to comment about something and ask a question.

Many theories tend to describe vampires as people who make other "feel" bad around them. Those who drain energy, that make people feel down and even said, due to this draining. Something everyone should walk away from.
I understand there are those who are described as emotional vampires, but I would like to make a comment about a different side.
As also written in the Asetian Bible, and some other texts related to energy manipulation, this ability can be used for healing.

Also, when feeding, there are some theories that say the vampires use a little of their energy, in order to send the tendrills, or to this energy work as a "bait", being able to pull the person energy back.
I am here talking about a predatory (non consenual) way of feeding.

The person feeling this energy, would get in touch with the vampire energy, what tends to be good, hypnotizing, with an intense vibration, this way affecting the person, usually in a positive way.

So we could see here a vampire as a being that would bring a sense of well being, one that can be described as good vibration Having people wanting to hang around them, and not away from them. Saying " I feel good when I am around you". This could be due to the ability of cycling the energy, and also the energy of the vampire that could be affecting the person right?
In order to feed, it would be much better that the person feel good , this way opening and benefiting from it, than having a feeling of "feeling bad", this way wanting to be away from the vampire. It would make more sense.
The cycling action, would be putting the energy into moving, so there is this state of well being. (like giving a chocolate to the "victim").

Now reading the Asetian Bible, and some references about Lineages, I would like to ask a question related to the layer of Lineage.

People that manipulate energy in general, can perform different actions, but if I talk about Asetians, for example, this fact I described above, would be most likely to occur naturally to Concubines, due to the natural cycling ability? This "causing" a good vibration in the environment?
Guardians would be less prone to cause this?
What about Viperines, their methaphysical abilities, and strategic minds would help that to be someting as natural as breathing?

I hope these questions are ok, and I understand they are just assumptions, and the comments I may have, are derived from opinions, and do not reflect the actual true.
I just would like to know a little about that.

Thank you.

*even sad - not said
*instead of having a feeling of bad feelin - not than having

(I guess I will start writting in word efore posting hehehe)

I may not be of much help. I realize your question is Asetian-centered. My response is more from a "Vampire Community" sort of perspective (as well as personal experience of course).
*shames self, and recalls a recent post involving the term "sock puppet" =/ *

Anyway, personally, emotional vampires or preferably social vampires are not vampires (imo). They don't drain metaphysical energy, they manipulate or otherwise bring people down intentionally or not in ways not metaphysical. (that reads really weird, I'm sorry).

As one who identifies as a vampire (personally holding the primary/ultra-simplified definition of a need to feed), I can say that on multiple occasions I've caught myself auto-feeding. When I was first learning how to control my feeds, and recognize them, and essentially take care of myself, I was largely in disbelief and denial, so I denied myself proper, active feeds (if you hold the belief that one is born not made/developed a vampire, I can say with honesty, minus recognizing an energy draw for what it was or even acknowledging the sensation at all, that these experiences have been constant since as young/early as I can remember).

I recall a sensation that I explained away and shrugged off as excitement/anxiety, as it tended to happen when I was in some social setting, primarily a one-on-one hang out with a friend. I am an anxious and excitable person, so this made sense. This sensation was pretty normal for me. As I learned more about vampirism, I tried harder to experiment with the sensation (stop it, alter it, allow it). Majority of my friends didn't respond much if at all like they were reacting to an energy draw, and the subtle responses I did pick up, could easily be explained as something else until one time.

I have been a part of real/human/living vampire forums for easily a decade now (possibly longer but just a couple years), through my first forum, I made a few long distance friends. One of these friends moved to my state, and we decided to meet up and try to foster an in-person friendship. The first time at her home, I recall the same sensation. Again, I experimented with it, but largely tried to stop it. As the struggle consumed my thoughts and I felt it was rude to ignore my new friend, I eventually gave up and rationalized that my sensation was probably nothing but anxiety or excitement.

As I gave in and allowed the sensation to continue, my vampire friend eventually stopped, mid conversation, and asked me if I was drawing energy from her ("feeding"). This came off as a bit of a surprise to me. I hesitated but tried to play it cool, so as not to suggest anything (I probably failed). My response was "maybe, I'm not sure, why do you ask?".

She described a sort of pleasant "sinking" feeling. She described feeling relaxed (when normally she's also a bit anxious). She described an odd sort of "pull" away from her body. We had only just met as something more than internet personalities or text on a screen, and already she identified what a feed felt like (I don't recall if she'd ever been fed on before) and expressed to me that she indeed feel it (without me cuing her at all).

My entire life, even in my adult life, people have been drawn to me, and become attracted to me and have described my presence as beign soothing, relaxing. One or two even describing their minds/personal inner thoughts to regularly be very loud and difficult to maintain, but around me their thoughts were quiet or even controlled.

While, yes, (as has been my experience) a nonconsenting energy draw (if it's noticed at all) can be distressing and feel like an attack. These are generally though associated with active feeds where the vampire or spiritual predator is intentionally attaching themselves and pulling from their victim (I've heard/read this being compared to rape). I's also been described that feeding, in general, can help facilitate natural circulation through clearing out blockages or pulling out negative, stale/stagnant or problem energy causing people to eventually feel good, revitalized. However, with auto feeds, surface feeds, generally less invasive feeds (whether consenting or not), it's apparently much more pleasant than the first I described.

I've also heard of vampires sort of having a natural charm, where some may be prone to manipulating people (like social/emotional vampires), and like any person some have good intentions, bad intentions or simply don't care about others one way or another. I've also heard that being drawn from can become addicting be this a side effect of the draw or something in the nature/energy of the vampire.

As far as castes, categories, bloodlinesetc. I've oftend found myself more strongly relating to the middle ground (Kitra, Counselor, for example) and interestingly enough, the last time I read about them in this forum, I felt myself more closely relating to the Cocubines or Guardians.

I always considered my chronic auto-feeding to be a problem resulting from a lack of conscious active feeds. I operate under the general belief that auto-feeds aren't something that vampires, or anyone, are easily aware of. I've always been hyper aware of my body, sensations and what-not, so I attribute my recognition of auto feeding to my hyper-awareness, hyper-alertness.. but perhaps, it's simply my nature, my natural state. I do believe every living thing naturally cycles energy, perhaps I'm just more prone to facilitating this, regardless of my own personal need.

Interesting thoughts. I would like to discuss the possibility of just feeding from the ambience, drawing in energy from the atmosphere instead of directly from people, what would that turn out to be like? In contrast to non consensual feeding, for instance.

On another note, I think I have long suppressed some psychic material in my mind. I will feel as if i can get a telepathic contact with people, psychically connecting to them, very easily, by just being in close proximity to, or thinking about, them; but most particularly concerned with the former. This can be distressing for me as my mind has been sullied by negative thoughts and such instinctual reactions to people from the baser portions of the brain, which causes me to repress it and repress any possible psychic connection. I wonder if this is related to vampirism in any way, to feeding. It is almost as if it that is what I am suppressing, all since I came to Christendom and becoming oversensitive in certain ways in a manner of not wanting to inflict the slightest harm on creatures, either in thought, word or deed. However, concerning the problem of repression, I have found that practicing mindfulness works extremely well against that. But it feels as if those psychic connections I get with people could be the act of unconscious feeding which I am overconscious towards and repress before it is even come to mind directly. I believe I have experienced feeding experiences that way in my life, but it is nothing I actively do a lot.

But, of course, it could be due to other reasons as well, but it is a possibility I like to explore.

MysticLightShinethForth wrote:Interesting thoughts. I would like to discuss the possibility of just feeding from the ambience, drawing in energy from the atmosphere instead of directly from people, what would that turn out to be like? In contrast to non consensual feeding, for instance.

On another note, I think I have long suppressed some psychic material in my mind. I will feel as if i can get a telepathic contact with people, psychically connecting to them, very easily, by just being in close proximity to, or thinking about, them; but most particularly concerned with the former. This can be distressing for me as my mind has been sullied by negative thoughts and such instinctual reactions to people from the baser portions of the brain, which causes me to repress it and repress any possible psychic connection. I wonder if this is related to vampirism in any way, to feeding. It is almost as if it that is what I am suppressing, all since I came to Christendom and becoming oversensitive in certain ways in a manner of not wanting to inflict the slightest harm on creatures, either in thought, word or deed. However, concerning the problem of repression, I have found that practicing mindfulness works extremely well against that. But it feels as if those psychic connections I get with people could be the act of unconscious feeding which I am overconscious towards and repress before it is even come to mind directly. I believe I have experienced feeding experiences that way in my life, but it is nothing I actively do a lot.

But, of course, it could be due to other reasons as well, but it is a possibility I like to explore.

Technically that would be "ambient feeding". Keep in mind, people, all living things (this is my personal belief at least) naturally pull and push, cycle, energy. Ambiently drawing in an environment's energy and expelling some of your own (perhaps as a sort of exhaust) is natural. Of course the charge of the ambient energy, the atmosphere so to speak, will effect you. Be it due to physical things, again - sights, smells, sounds (even those not noticed like hormones and pheromones, or other chemicals).

My question to you, when you experience this ambient energy (as we're calling out) is it JUST a high so to speak or is there more?

Anyone, everyone is affected by their environment. People will naturally be hyped up by a high energy atmosphere. Bonds can and do form through this natural exchange through interacting with people.
As far as feeding/need is concerned, however, you'd be lucky if you can manage yourself on ambient energy alone. If ambient energy is all you're drawing, and you don't experience side effects from not actively drawing energy into yourself, then you don't have a need to feed. Still, check out more information about how the Asetians view vampires.

Personally, I haven't read much from you yet to suggest vampirism, but I'm not you. I can't make that call for you. Educate yourself, figure it out and be open minded and mature enough to accept whatever answer is the truth, even if it's not the answer you want.

Your "psychic" stuff, could be Empathy. While some describe empathy as simply understanding others' emotions, it is/can be feeling those emotions as your own. Some consider this just human intuition or something, but there can be a metaphysical consideration to this in that Empathy is/may be a sensitivity to energy. While this may include literally feeling someone else's emotions, it can include other things too. While many vampires express empathic sensitivity, empathy is not a defining characteristic of vampirism (imo).

Be sure to explore all possibilities, especially those that CAN be tested and proven/disproven. Do not fixate on vampirism simply because that's what you want it to be, or whatever your drive towards the subject may be deep down.

*Be it due to physical things, again - sights, smells, sounds (even those not noticed like hormones and pheromones, or other chemicals).
....as well as metaphysical things - energies put out by other people or entities in the area, the "vibe" influenced by the physical factors,...

A.Nightside, aye, thanks. I understand, and this has opened my eyes a bit more. It might be what you are saying.

I have, honestly speaking, been attached to the idea of vampirism for a long time, many, many years, since 2011. Somehow I started to inwardly identify as a vampire for some time but then times changed and it seems as if my old self passed away in renewal of another me and here I came out feeling a lot more human than I used to, whereas, I could prior to then, very much emphatize with your points of view on otherkins and such. Yet there seem to be resurfacing old memories, manifesting themselves through me of such old things from the past, wanting to breath and live again, whatever it might have been. It is quite strange really and I am only trying to understand my own soul. I might just be more of a mystic, from previous experiences, which I will not now go into detail about. Maybe I am just too allured, now again, honestly speaking, by the idea of vampirism. It might sound ridiculous and I understand that, but at least I am being thoroughly honest and that is always for the best of improvement. I wished I could get into contact with my past self, for it is as if I am reborn, and my past self felt a lot more whole and complete... This present version of me is broken and deteroriated, completely in ruins, but it was even worse when I checked in here 2014 in my first appearance on this forum, since then I have built myself up, a new me out of the ashes of the old self, its crumbled ruins. Many things I have gone through, many terrible ordeals and things like that. But I fight on. I have brought back my soul from the brink of death, many times, and defy everything that is in front of me merely to live and to breath... It is really a sad tale, for how I used to be was so much better than my present shape and I have mourned it for long, yet come to the realization that this is what I have and I have to work with it. Hmm... I am just very open and do not really care for what people think. I cannot be harmed by people's thoughts or words in the end of time. However, this is my tale of desolation, and ruins, and despair from many a great loss of the old self that was so much better... wiser, stronger, sharper, brighter, faster; and I wonder to this day what has happened to me? But I shall defy all powers that be against me and fight with such a fierce force that even the heavens may shake if I have to employ them in survival and to breath and to live as I once did.... Only is there the way to press forward, and onward... No stop... Well, I view reality in a different way than most human egos do so entrapped within their own illusions and delusions of utter nonsense which in reality makes no sense. I know that nothing can harm me as I have already faced worst of the worst and gone through the hardest of the hardest of times... Hmm... why am I saying all of this? I suppose I am just telling my tale, a Phoenix ressurecting onto new life from the ashes... Maybe there are kindred souls who can help me also with their good and wise insights as well.

reality never exists in the past.....or the future as It never arrives. There is only the present.

One that spends so much time in the past will never be delivered into a present time of satisfaction. Eliminate the past and concentrate on the present. That is the only thing that is real.

Hmm... yes, but retrieval is important, too, even though it is anchored in the present - from the present I observe the past and future, not from the past or future the past or future.

and that is exactly what I am pointing out to you. spending too much time observing the past is destructive. You would do better spending that time in the present.

Alright, I will do, thank you, Maxx.

keep the present between the ears and behind the eyes. That will also eliminate things from that area that you are not even responsible for and that has attached themselves to you. Ground yourself good 3 times a day.

MysticLightShinethForth , your words had a special emotion, as you were describing these things you've been through.

Well, what I could tell you is that I feel you are on the right track. Just an intuition.

It may seem like some people say it is part of our Path, when some try to make us accept things the way they are... however what I feel about what you are saying is that, it is indeed, part of your process.

If you think about some years ago, and see where you are now, you you see that it may look you are at the same point, like walking in circles, you are actually, because you always return to a specific point, but it is like you go for a walk, gather new tools to be able to deal with what you have to deal.

Keep strong, as you are like a Phoenix. Every time you go to the flames, you are able to reborn stronger.

You are already going after things to get to know yourself, and that I think is priceless, not always a gentle and kind Journey, but a True one.

you wil see that it may look*

anyone to help me with those basic questions I asked? heheh

Guardians would be less prone to cause this?
What about Viperines, their methaphysical abilities, and strategic minds would help that to be someting as natural as breathing?

It is quite strange really and I am only trying to understand my own soul.

Do not go on the tales of ruins and desolation. Understand they were part of it, but as good moments, bad moments, all of them just pass.

Do not hold on any. The present moment is just the present. See your thoughts and your feelings, watch them but do not become them.

See everything from a neutral point of view, not good not bad, part of the experiences, lessons to be learned but not you.

Do you know the "This too shall pass" Persian adage?

Maxx, what is this point "between the ears and behind the eyes"? Do you refer to the third eye or something area in its vicinity or close proximity?

Lynskha, thank you for your kind words, indeed they ring true to me. And yes, I have heard this adage before, a very good one actually of reinstilling hope in the heart.

The 3rd eye as you call it.......behind the eyes...

But just up a 1/2 inch and back about the same space you will find the connection to your higher self.

By concentrating your consciousness in that area and by being aware that you are there at all times, you are always in the present and it is easier to plan and be in control of yourself more.

If you are observing or recalling things from the past, you are not in the present at all.

By focusing your thought on the present, this is how you create your life.  You make your life entirely what it is.   You do not create at all if your focus is on the past.  You are wasting your time that you are given.

Ok, seems I will have to pinpoint that location. But do you not think just focusing your consciousness upon the background of awareness can lead you to connection with the higher self as well, or take your focus to that area of the brain through its very gravity?

Thanks yet again, Maxx, surerly some liberating words of advice, hehe.

Me thinks you are trying to make it too hard when it is really simple.

Be Aware. Where is that awareness located? Move your consciousness and your awareness together and move it to your right elbow. Move the consciousness to your left ear. Move your consciousness (self) to the location directly behind the eyes and between the ears. Be aware that you put your awareness in that location. Keep it there and then look around your room viewing everything in the room while being aware that you are looking at everything from that vantage point. Keep your awareness (self) in that spot as much as you possibly can. Do your thinking focusing and creating from that spot.

The advantage in this is that everything you are carrying around with you has been hanging around in that spot for all these years. Where do you think those used thoughts you had 10 years ago or 12 years ago went to? Also all the problems others have given you that you think they are a part of you. They actually are not. Just make a simple deal with yourself to just tell them all to leave and that you are now taking over your own house. You are taking back your own being and getting rid of all the trash others have tried to put on you and convince you it was because of you. It was not. You can be free of many things in life that you are not even responsible for by moving to that spot and taking it back to be in control of yourself. When you are there you are always in the present time. This is the place that you can focus and create those things in your life you want to have or better yourself with. Try it. Always be aware from that spot. Look at everything from behind the eyes. Heck, one might even develop psychic sight by doing this.....HeHe. Many advantages. Also, from this vantage point after a while, you can see in 360-degree range. Even seeing behind you without turning your head around.......

Notice closely. I said view and look at everything FROM BEHIND the eyes. Do not use your eyes. See with your consciousness using your thought process to accomplish this. One may say you are not seeing except by using your eyes. Think by opening your awareness and view everything from the location behind the eyes and in the spot between the ears. There is plenty of room for you to get in there.

After a while practice viewing your room with your eyes closed. look around the room. Look at the room behind you with your eyes closed. Move to your kitchen and look at things there. All the while sitting in a chair with your eyes closed. You can take your sight and awareness and move it outside your living room and go walking down the room or street looking at all the small sights everyone misses as they pass by. Before long you will be giving me advice.

Is this clairvoyance you are speaking of? I have experimented with this exact same method before! However, that was a few years ago and I have stopped doing it since then because of suspecting my misuse of it to have been one of the negatively contributing factors to psychotic symptoms back then, but maybe I am mistaken, actually could be mistaken in second considerations of it...

As for the rest of what you are saying, all the details and the conceptual overview of the matter, to put into correct and proper practice, I will have to melt or process it for a while.

Cheers.