Joining a group

hi guys.
im new to all the vampire stuff and i wanted to ask if there are some good groups you can join out there?
ive seen the tov but it seems like a big scam.. are there any legit groups you can join ? and how do you start to learn the practical stuff? thanks alot in advance

Im looking for vampire groups online that are real accult groups not goth freaks...
and are practicing magic related to vampirism...

Yea that is what i mean

wildguitars wrote:Im looking for vampire groups online that are real accult groups not goth freaks...
and are practicing magic related to vampirism...

So you're looking for people who practice vampirism in ritual or as part of their spiritual path/faith, rather than people who are actually vampires?

One can be Vampire and practice magic(k), one can be nonvampire and utilize the exact same energies for the same general purposes.

Also, gotta love your judgemental assessment. What is your first impression of this particular forum?
You already seem pretty ignorant. Perhaps stick around and participate some more, we can get to know you and then perhaps we'll have a better idea of where to refer you.

"Goth freaks", as you so eloquently put it, can have human or non-human identities, and can follow any religion, just as humans and non-humans can be goth or not goth, religious or not religious, and any flavour or colour of person can be any of the above.
If you're asking about ToV I wouldn't suggest it personally, but if you want to see what it's all about, go ahead and purchase the material. You can PM if you want to know my full opinion, as I'm not prone to public bashing or risking disrespecting anyone.