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Post by MysticLightShinethForth 25.05.18 4:25

Hello, well met.

So far in my journey there is something I have learnt to describe and classify as direct magick, from a website called MagickofThought.com. However, this practice has been my own, as I never engaged in any rituals or things of that nature. It has always been working with my mind, energy and instruments of directing that energy such as hands, in and of itself a more direct approach to magick than any indirect mediums of ritual magick. But, one very essential thing I have learnt through all my variegated experimentation within this field, is to meditate on the effects within your subtle anatomy that it has given you, mainly after the energy work has been performed. This simple meditative technique may prove important in assessing the energy levels and balance of the subtle system and correcting them likewise.

Anyone else has anything to share on direct magickal operations and energy work or tools and techniques that might be helpful? Any thoughts on this idea itself?
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Post by Troublemaker 26.05.18 0:34

I've been thinking on this post for a while. What you describe seems to me like the foundation level of magic and energy work. One of the reasons why so many sources advise to quiet the mind is, of course, to clean the slate and prepare the way for being able to sense energy, and work with it accurately.

With what you describe comes the potential for more advanced workings, such as the usage of constructs, different kinds of spells, ritual, even healing. For increased potency, study is of course advised.

For the way you are currently approaching your dealings with energy work, I would say crystals are an extremely helpful tool. Clear quartz in particular has a tendency to greatly amplify any existing vibration or to be programmed for a variety of other purposes. In addition, various crystals are good for the balancing of shen centers and attainment of greater subtle system health. You might find lapis lazuli to be a helpful gemstone for balancing the third eye shen, which is a vital doorway into energy work, sensing and the like.
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Post by MysticLightShinethForth 26.05.18 21:39

Aye, thank you. I will reflect on this, it is good advice.

However, what is the use of constructs? I have so far not understood their usefulness, what they can do or be helpful towards? Can they contribute towards spiritual growth? That is nearly all I care about.
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Post by Troublemaker 27.05.18 20:57

Constructs can range from being very simple to extremely complex and reqesauiring extensive skill. Their uses are pretty much unlimited, and depend on the will of the person putting them to use. So I would say that, like any other magical undertaking, their usefulness toward growth depends on you and your intent. I noticed that the Violet Throne mentions some uses as being shielding and or filtering specific  of energy when attached to certain physical structures like common walls or windows.

Any branch of advanced magic can be put to use for the spiritual growth of the practitioner. But those elements are bound to great understanding of metaphysics, internal balance and higher development.

I should add that I am not calling myself an advanced practitioner, lest anyone misunderstand my meaning. I am still growing and learning. Plus, this is a very interesting subject to discuss. Man, I get way too excited! Razz
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Post by Troublemaker 27.05.18 20:58

*Requiring

Please excuse the typo.
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Post by Maxx 27.05.18 21:14

consider how you focus your thoughts.  Change your mental focus to reflect you recognizing that you are moving, thinking, resting, being, etc. continuously living in a different astral or etheric dimension. No longer focus your thinking of being in a physical form.  

Your thoughts create everything about you.  Become what you desire from your thought perspective.  Do not be concerned what others think or react towards you.  You are you.  You are what you think.   Become what you want.  Combine your heart center and your mental focus to become one centered on your thoughts........continuously.   Live the life you want.

If you desire to heal someone of a problem, create a mental focus in a line from your heart, mind combination and visually see it created and appear to that person in the place where healing is needed.   Keep that focus steady on it.  Spend as much time as you think is proper.  Place colors of healing light (your choice of colors after you learn what each color of light vibration accomplishes) on that line you create and let it flow into that person along that line over and over like a moving assembly line.  Play with it.  Enjoy doing it.  Spirit will teach you how to do this.  Stay serious.   Stay humble with the results.  You can be no greater than the lowest person.   We are all one.

Keep thoughts there toward your focus.  

You will see a change in your life.  Create and build this with meditation

You already have the ability.  You just have no confidence or self-assurance that you do.  You make it happen.
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Post by Maxx 27.05.18 21:18

Makes no difference in the world the subject you work on is located or if you have ever met them or not. There is no such thing as distance in the spirit world.
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Post by Troublemaker 28.05.18 9:52

Maxx,
I greatly enjoyed reading your contributions.  This simplifies things and is very inviting as far as practice and self-exploration go.

We are all one.

I can definitely see the importance of remaining humble. It can be easy to get a bit inflated when these things produce fruitful results. I find this concept of us all being one, however, to be in vehement disagreement with what I've explored so far. I can of course only speak for myself personally but there are many individuals who I feel no resonance with, alongside an utter disgust at the thought of being one with... I'd love to hear an elaboration of this concept from your point of view.

You can be no greater than the lowest person.

I think one important facet of magical exploration is the continuous return to a grounded and humble base - appreciating and loving animals, or even realizing some apparently simple things, like the importance of people who might be considered "lowly" by those desiring to be fluent with the subtle realms. Farmers are one good example. They work their own "magic" directly on the soil to produce the world's food and yet many of them might always be considered "mundane" in an insulting sense despite how vital they are to civilization. Even food shopping can become a spiritual experience when one realizes all of the work that goes into something as simple as a bag of apples or potatoes. And then comes the gratitude. Seeing where everyone fits into their own role in life assists greatly in health and balance, as well as healing.
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Post by Maxx 28.05.18 10:50

the best example of the first question answer is the soul mate example....one you never heard about.   The greatest soul mate connection is the person you cannot stand and they cannot stand you.   You both have come here to help learn how to overcome the horrible situation of hate and anger.  i will not get into details of this but you can see from the example.   The common soul mate story put forth by everyone is rubbish.  How easy is it to get along with someone that you see eye to eye with all the time?  That is not a life lesson to be learned.

considered lowly is a term taken from how society sees another from a caste situation.    that should explain that better.

last.   An empath is an example impacted so much by others they have a hard time dealing with life.  This just is a clear notice that they are not grounding themselves properly. They may think they are, but the results are easy to tell they are not. I see people come in here often stating they have a problem being impacted by others so much they are having issues with their own life because of it.

you can overview and read between the lines to see what I mean with all of the above in your statement.
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Post by Troublemaker 28.05.18 11:46

Maxx,
I just can't get behind the soul mate example. I have heard of this theory but I see those situations more as a great learning opportunity than a real soul mate connection. Surely those kinds of situations are great opportunities for growth but do not represent a situation of transcendent love. There are a multitude of reasons why such situations could arise. A simple idea could be that the situation springs from a mutual challenging of pre-established psychological conditioning on both ends. A simpler metaphor still - one person enjoys green a little too much, and the other enjoys orange, and they just clash. The topic is rather broad in analysis, but I still maintain in my own personal view that love in its purest sense goes very far beyond this as a fire that survives death or when turned inward and not expressed toward another unlocks the deepest recesses of self.

The empath facet is interesting. Grounding is vital especially in the topic of active energy work and tuning into the frequencies of other people. I can see how not plunging those external vibrations can quickly and easily wreak havoc not only on the subtle system but also the life path and sureness of one's direction.

Castes have existed throughout history of course. I just find it interesting in observing people who find it necessary to frequently plaster "I am a vampire, I am a vampire" all over whatever gathering they have found themselves in. Those types are seen having the same recurrent debates and dramas over "how they should treat humans, as the predators they are" while flaunting a pretentious, imaginary title. There is no form of respect expressed toward the countless others whose contributions to society make it possible to live in any degree of comfort. Too many people want to be lords, queens, or kings.  Too many people want to lead, and not enough people want to simply learn.  Not enough people want to be at the foundation... since being a farmer is not glamorous.
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Post by Maxx 28.05.18 12:17

Surely those kinds of situations are great opportunities for growth but do not represent a situation of transcendent love.

I still maintain my above statement. there is no life lesson learned from loving some situation that falls into place without any work or love only those you get along with.

And my view is shown throughout this forum....... no vampire states they are a vampire in type or video or even makes an inference. no exceptions. Silence is a very profound statement.
It is the voice of God or Source.
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Post by Troublemaker 28.05.18 12:49

Maxx,
I ask what of the situations of love described by the Asetians? Now that is a situation of transcendental love, whether one is human, other, or Asetian. All are united in Asetianism with unconditional love under the violet light of Aset, in purity of Will and Heart, guided by an invisible but very real dedication and call to honoring Her.

It is simply not a feeling that can be described. But, regardless of whether or not a love connection with a specific other individual is found and present, Asetianism ignites lost love for Aset and Her children. It matters not whether one is human or of any other nature, if that very real love for Aset and the violet banners of Her children is present without conditions or corrupt expectations, it manifests deep initiations with that trademark transcendent, ethereal quality, defying death and always rising once more to honor the violet call like an incorruptible phoenix of the eons.

And of course in this example not every individual agrees on every single thing, but one does not have to be in stark opposition or true hatred of another to learn magic from them that truly touches the soul.
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Post by Maxx 28.05.18 13:12

and that has to be in a higher dimension because.......there is no unconditional love in the 3rd dimension. none at all.   So when I see that mentioned I know it is taking place in the 5th or higher dimensions.  

Be aware, the real Aset Ka or the ROS are actually dwelling in the higher realms.   Most people are here with a vision of them walking around all the time beside them but it is not on a continuing basis.  Bilocation is a matter for another discussion.

Nice and pleasant words you are using but it will not reflect a continuous love spoken about in the reading material describing Aset as it does not exist in an unbroken line in the 3rd dimension.  It is nice to talk about it but without knowing it by first-hand knowledge you might never experience it for real unless one moves into that higher realm.  To experience Samadi one has to be moved in spirit into that higher realm.  Not the lower level of the 3rd dimension here.

The same thing applies to the Vampire issue.  Vampires exist in a higher realm.  This is not their natural home at this time.  Those living in delusion exist in the so-called vampire realm of the 3rd dimension.  But to them they can convince themselves very easily they do not want to be responsible for their life.   They try to live a fantasy life of self-importance while the real Vampire walks among other worlds of higher dimension.  There is where one finds unconditional love.
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Post by Maxx 28.05.18 13:20

the above reflects back to the post I made about healing. One cannot heal another unless they learn to move in and out of the higher and different dimensions. This cannot be taught on a forum in words. But I am trying to awaken a desire within one to transcend the mundane and begin to elevate the spirit into the working of healing others as well as self.
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Post by Maxx 28.05.18 13:36

I do not try to tell you how to think.  Believe nothing I post as you must find the reflection of it in you.  It is important that one find how to think for themselves and not have a mindset from reading something that another posts.   Find this for yourself and that is how knowledge will result from experiencing it firsthand.  

Many disagree with me.   I love it because that means you have to prove yourself right.....by proving me to be incorrect.  Do it.   You will grow by becoming involved.
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Post by Troublemaker 28.05.18 13:48

I had a reply typed out but it got lost somehow.

Well Maxx, I can say that it is not about proving myself right. I simply enjoy the discussions.
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Post by Maxx 28.05.18 13:56

that was not directed specifically toward you... it was toward others and you probably know those I refer to.
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Post by Maxx 28.05.18 14:07

now then, if I am wrong about the soul mate statement above that is great.....and you Rhea Kay would be right.  So if you are correct then that is a very easy problem one would have in life.   It is very easy to construct (or create) that other person that you would think is the perfect match you would be looking for in a life situation.   Manifesting that other person could be moved into your situation by meditation and focused thought.   Very easy to accomplish as each person creates the life they focus on around them.   One has exactly in life what they are thinking.   ha.   Justice shows up on everybody's doorstep.

So creating that is a minor life lesson. On the other hand, if one is confronted with a horrible example of making one life miserable, what a life lesson that requires one to undertake.....and it was designed before being born into this non-unconditional love area.....lol.
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Post by Maxx 28.05.18 14:08

Real Life Has A Sense Of Humor
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Post by Troublemaker 28.05.18 14:25

I can see what you're saying up to a point. I'd just like to add that while the law of attraction is quite valuable when fully understood and utilized, I do not think it is solely responsible for every facet of one's life. While in the driver's seat it is still possible to be affected by the actions of other drivers or even nature. I feel that one thing actions of others cannot affect is the determined Will when fully balanced.

As for love, I feel that it must be unconditional otherwise it is not really love. And on the physical plane it exists as a pure alchemical force through which the Higher and Lower may unite and present new avenues and initiations.

NO words on any forum mean anything in and of themselves. It is all too easy to just say whatever and pass it off as absolute truth. Forums can be great gathering places, for the free exchange of ideas and viewpoints. This can lead to wonderful revelations and even opened doors to different ways of thinking but ultimately, the walk itself lies with the initiate and their ability to travel the difficult pathways within their own microcosm.
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Post by Maxx 28.05.18 14:41

I believe that my answer here may illustrate our difference of opinion on most of the above.   I simply ask one to kick it up to a higher level of process than continuing to operate or view from the physical level.  Whether agreed or not, this will be how we are seeing operation universe 101 by either of us and expecting changes to take place in our lives as well as others.

It appears we find agreement in the topic of kindergarten vampirism of delusion in seeking topics like I do not do well in the sunlight or I am weak unless I find my donor source,,,,,,,,,,,,, can you help me, fantasy, etc.   This is one example of kicking into a higher element of thought.  See, we are there already.
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Post by Maxx 28.05.18 14:47

and your example in your first paragraph above is not fully understanding the law of attraction and is not manifesting by creation their own life because the protection takes place on a higher level where they are residing and no longer have to think of putting constant protection around them as it is a natural thing in their higher realm and dimension.   See the difference in our thinking?
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Post by Maxx 28.05.18 14:54

going back to the headline of this posting and looking at the word magic.....one has to understand that magic on the higher level is not magic....it is normal cause and effect.   Magic is not understood by those on the lower dimension and is called a miracle but when one moves into the higher dimension it is an everyday occurrence.  

This is why I suggested one change the thought process and begin to live in the astral every day as much as possible instead of thinking on the physical or mundane level because everything around us came from the thought level first. Nothing ever got here but that it was thought beforehand. Nothing.
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Post by Troublemaker 28.05.18 16:11

Maxx, I see your contributions as being very interesting to read but I see a lot of absolute statements being made, such as love is impossible on the physical plane. Or that soul mates are always those who hate you and you hate them. Absolute statements can't define everyone.

Maybe I misunderstand your meaning about the astral, but I see existing as a person of deep thought, magical ability and philosophical insight being not the same thing as living constantly in the astral. The astral can be a realm of great deceit even though its exploration and mastery can present so many benefits to the individual. Living above the physical all the time isn't possible while incarnated. While in a physical body, the here and now can be just as important as a magical working. The grounded aspect of now, and of enjoying the delights of the physical and incarnation, is valuable and it's also exceedingly dangerous when neglected in favor of complete immersion within a subtle realm. I see what you mean with this, I think, just sharing my perspective.

everything around us came from the thought level first.

Indeed!

Anyway, this is just for the sake of discussion. Proving right or wrong, none of that matters ultimately. Internal growth is the good part, and the most important. Good discussion!
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Post by Maxx 28.05.18 16:21

UNCONDITIONAL love is impossible in the 3rd dimension. Nothing can be constant here.

It can ..... if everything is of one source.

And why not think in constant higher level. 99% of everyone thinks and stays in the physical all the time.
We are as much spirit as we are physical so why not select where you want to live?

One has to change their way of thinking if we are to change the way our life is constructed.

Your choice where you want to exist.
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