Re: Tarot Decks?

by Kalb 02.04.16 14:20

It would be so nice to have a deck created by Asetians in our hands.
Personally, I do not know if it's just me, but the Thoth Tarot there is a lot of symbolism from the Asetianism. The major arcana are numbered by Roman numerals, but there is no number 0 in the Roman system, so the number 0 is the great mystery not only for its symbolism in the Tree of Life, but also for its origins. Looking at the Egyptian system, we see that the zero nfr is the symbol, meaning beautiful. Adapting this writing for current days, nfr means: Nefer. If you look at all the publications of Aset Ka you see that the name Nefer is present. Some argue that Nefer is a very old name and that is a real Egyptian name directly connected with Asetian family. Some writers argue that there is only one single letter in the Tarot, which is The Fool, the remaining 77 are manifestations of The Fool. This creates an interesting reasoning: Nefer, The Beginning.

Looking at the letter, we see the following:
- Crocodile: Represents Sobek - Sethian Bloodline.
- The fool – Osiris.
- The coins – Maat.
- Moon – Thoth.

Among other details.

by Leelahel 19.04.16 15:28

The first thing I'd so with an Asetian Tarot is this exercise, with all of the cards:
http://www.taroticallyspeaking.com/begin/entering-a-tarot-card-a-meditation-exercise/

I found the article very interesting for beginners as well as experts, and given that you like to go real deep into things, I feel it would offer something of value to your private practices.

Step by steps to meditating into cards:

Tarotically Speaking wrote:Entering A Tarot card – The Meditation Exercise

Once you’ve got that set up, here is what you need to do:

Either lie down or sit comfortably in a chair.
Once you are comfortable, hold your selected card in front of you and look at it. Look at each and every aspect of the card’s image. Note the colors, the landscape, the scenery, the elements within the picture, the animals, the birds, the people – everything. Existence
Now close your eyes, and visualize the card’s image in front of your eyes. This step might take some time for some people – but don’t give up.
If you can’t see the picture clearly, look at the card once again for a few minutes and then try visualizing it again.
Make sure you can visualize all the different things and elements within the card’s picture.
Open your eyes for a bit, and double check if you’ve got all the stuff correctly.
Close your eyes, and visualize the card once again.
Now visualize that the card is getting bigger and bigger and bigger.
At a point, this card becomes a little bigger than you.
Now this card becomes a portal or a doorway – you can step right through it and enter the picture.
Go right in the picture and look around you for a few seconds.
Experience the sights, sounds and smells of the card: is it warm or cold? Does it smell nice? Do you hear anything? Notice everything.
Now, slowly start walking towards the person that is there in the card.
Greet that person, and thank him / her for having you visit.
Have a little chat with that person – ask him whatever you want to know about the card. Ask him your questions. Clear your doubts.
Once you’ve had a brief chat with him / her, thank him / her for all the information that he / she has given you.
Ask him / her if it is ok for you to visit him / her later on.
Now, turn around and slowly come back to the place where you started.
See the boundary of the card and step out of it.
Visualize the card slowly becoming smaller and smaller and smaller till it becomes so small that it fits into your hand.
Take a few minutes and then slowly open your eyes.
Take a minute to reorient yourself, and then quickly write down or audio record all that you saw, talked about, heard, and experienced.

In this entire exercise, you will essentially have communicated with the energy of the card that resides within your subconscious. As such, this is a very immersive and deep meditative exercise, and can help you forge a very intense connection with your cards.

Hope you enjoy,
Leelahel

by Leelahel 19.04.16 15:30

Kalb,

Thank you for sharing that. It helped me see the Thoth in a new way.

by Nightshade 19.04.16 16:24

This sounds a lot similar to some introduction techniques to inner projection and astral projection using the Tarot, particularly useful to explore its archetypal energies.

I will experiment with this exercise as well.

by Leelahel 03.05.17 20:41

The Hermetic Tarot seems like another great deck for Asetianists who also practice ceremonial magick to work with.

https://vid.me/0tD4

Here is an unboxing review.

Thoroughly recommend it.

by Maxx 04.05.17 8:42

Interesting. Many things I found similar to the Brotherhood of Light Egyptian Tarot from CC Zain. He did fly through this but I found it is designed to be used differently than the way I use the Tarot. Regardless, I enjoyed the description. Thanks

by Maxx 04.05.17 9:22

And I enjoyed looking over the site of Madhavi Ghare. It is well done and very comprehensive. Thanks for that.

by Heruset 04.05.17 10:00

To go back to this post, I actually used the Aquarian deck despite my original doubts in it.

Its magick and symbolism in my unconscious mind worked very powerfully.

I had to burn the deck, because I felt it was influencing my life too strongly in a negative light.

So anyone interested in that deck should go for it, if it works for them.

by Maxx 04.05.17 13:05

If it was influencing the subconscious mind in that strong a manner and you could not control it's effect on you, how do you think just burning the deck would make a difference at all? Are you indicating the burning acts as a symbol that you can use toward your separation from the problem? Do you feel that will remove the attachment from within the mind?

by Heruset 04.05.17 13:30

I meant the actual deck, Maxx, when I say it was influencing me. Seeing the images would bring back the memories of the occurrence and such. Not only memories but other things in my unconscious.

I can't really get personal about it.

The magick still has an effect. That is permanent.

Burning the deck symbolized for me the destruction of my fear of it, and the destruction of the energies associated with the usage of the deck, as well as the literal physical destruction along with grounding those energies to the earth (and physically burying the ashes in the forest where I'd burned them).

Fire for me is used to represent the Will. To Will away energies is to banish them, or burn them, in my thinking.

by Leelahel 04.05.17 16:09

Maxx wrote:Interesting. Many things I found similar to the Brotherhood of Light Egyptian Tarot from CC Zain. He did fly through this but I found it is designed to be used differently than the way I use the Tarot. Regardless, I enjoyed the description. Thanks

I haven't seen the Brotherhood of Light Egyptian Tarot from CC Zain in person before. There seem to be different versions on an online market ranging from the affordable to collector status.

Do you project into these cards and interact with the depicted figures?

It looks great, really.

Thank you : )

by Leelahel 04.05.17 16:16

Heruset wrote:To go back to this post, I actually used the Aquarian deck despite my original doubts in it.

Its magick and symbolism in my unconscious mind worked very powerfully.

I had to burn the deck, because I felt it was influencing my life too strongly in a negative light.

So anyone interested in that deck should go for it, if it works for them.

I understand what the action of burning represents, but it seems to me like an extreme and impulsive action. Cards are just tools, you could very well have cleansed them and passed them onto somebody else who could get productive use out of it. It shows fear to have to destroy a tool because of what it triggers in you.

Heruset, you seem troubled or imbalanced lately. If you need to take some time to regain your balance, maybe that would be good for you.

Alternatively, it's your deck. You could do whatever you wished with it. It's not my business.

Hope you are well.

by Heruset 04.05.17 16:24

To some extent I was in fear and unbalanced as I openly stated.

This was over a year ago, by the way. You say I seem unbalanced but haven't seen any side of me... strange.

It's you who is projecting. What you see in others reflects what we don't know of ourselves.

I didn't destroy THE only tool, by the way. It was a tool I didn't want to use. I moved onto alternative decks than that one.

by Leelahel 04.05.17 16:26

Heruset wrote:To some extent I was in fear and unbalanced as I openly stated.

This was over a year ago, by the way. You say I seem unbalanced but haven't seen any side of me... strange.

It's you who is projecting. What you see in others reflects what we don't know of ourselves.

I didn't destroy THE only tool, by the way. It was a tool I didn't want to use. I moved onto alternative decks than that one.

I said what I said with the best of intentions. If you took personal offense to it, please accept my apology. But pointing fingers at me and insulting me is the last straw. You can consider our correspondence finished after this. I do not wish to offer aid to someone who bites the hand that feeds.

by Heruset 04.05.17 16:31

I am not insulting. Take it how you wish.

I simply told you the truth of the matter and your ego seems unflattered.

Perhaps you should reread your post, as even though many times people 'don't mean' offense, their shadow self takes the wheel and inserts offensive statements.

Your correspondence has gotten me nowhere in life but someone to talk to on the internet a few times. Don't overstate our relationship.

If you feel bitten perhaps you should take some time to heal the wound.

by Leelahel 04.05.17 16:31

Your words mean little to me.

by Leelahel 04.05.17 16:32

Despite everything, I lent a hand when you feared speaking out. You yourself retracted it and made you look bad.

Back off. I'm not interested in talking to you anymore.

by Heruset 04.05.17 16:44

I retracted it with reason. Perhaps you fear automatic writing has been a very unconscious job with you as well.

It may or may not be the case. Remember the worlds are all connected-- be it inner to astral or astral to ethereal.

That being said, just because one specific case was the work of the unconscious doesn't mean that the messages were not supposed to be found, no, in fact, the unconscious mind is to be learnt about and dealt with and understood...

Automatic writing can be a tool to the unconscious and beyond just as the tarot can.

I never 'feared' speaking out, to be honest. I just didn't bother because I expected a poor reaction, and whence everyone's 'intelligent' guesses fell through in a group effort; proved wrong in a split second when I stated the writing was from my unconscious mind, and not an outside intelligent being, that poor reaction surfaced.

Well, life doesn't work how we want. Take a step outside of yourself and look at your reflection.

by Maxx 04.05.17 19:04

Leelahel,
Moving right along.

No, I was not successful in using the Brotherhood of Light by entering them. They have some changes in their structure that are different than other cards I use. I am more comfortable in entering other decks that I use with some more familiar pictured surroundings. I do like to enter and discuss with some of those beings. Again, I do like the feeling I got while reading the material from your previous pages of Madhavi Ghare. I do have a sense of the person and their personality over the material they write. I like her personality. I do not try to do that it just comes across. I was in a discussion last night about this very thing on facebook where others enter a conversation and it suddenly seems to take on a different vibration.....and I can sense either darkness or light coming from them. I believe many others do the same thing.

by Jonathan 04.05.17 19:40

Always interesting how much we can see and reveal about people just from observing their words and interactions...

by Heruset 04.05.17 20:22

Right Jonathan?

by Leelahel 04.05.17 20:28

Hey Maxx,

Thanks for taking the time to look into the links. Madhavi Ghare’s exercise is such a good one. Smile

Right now I am about to dive into Camelia Elias’ “The Oracle Travels Light” book.

As said on Amazon wrote:This book depicts manifestations of folk magic, black magic, and practical magic as courage and everyday wisdom, and it demonstrates how reading cards can entice us to concrete magical action. It thus goes beyond reading cards for personal and spiritual growth and demonstrates how the cards create connections between people, from the living to the dead. It talks about objects magically landing in your kitchen, family secrets that get untangled in necromantic sessions, power and how we use it. At the heart of the book is a guide to storytelling and spellcrafting with cards, demonstrating the transformative power of stories that makes us skillful in the arts of asking, knowing, and having. Fully color illustrated with the unique and rarely seen Marseille cards of Carolus Zoya (ca. 1790), and accompanied also by the author's original art, the book is a delight to the eye.

I haven’t read The Oracle Travels Light yet, but I love her blog http://taroflexions.wordpress.com/ and it’s an excellent resource. I also read Toward the Art of Reading and it was useful. Her thing is that she reads cards “like the devil.” She is an academic and her humor has a bite to it. She also reads with precision. No new age hocus pocus.

If ever you find yourself curious and have the time.

Be well!

by Maxx 04.05.17 21:36

an excellent piece of bait. makes me want to go fishing. Thanks

by WhiteCrow813 30.05.17 4:19

I picked up a copy of Tarot of the Spirit World a year or two back after I got runes down. It either speaks in riddles or goes straight for the throat (so to speak) and I like that in a deck. I need to try that meditation with it.

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