Gods and Dreams

Well, the useless thread has spurred what I feel could be good conversation. What do we here think about gods entering peoples' dreams and telling them things are simply interacting? Equally with Asetians, even Horus Himself in whatever form He chooses to be. I know from the AB that Asetians are very good at dream-walking, so could this imply that they will be able to enter other peoples' dreams?

I don't doubt that they can enter others dreams.

Dream magic is tricky, and I mean tricky in the way that its not hard to do, but hard to remember, in the logical part...
But since they are goddesses and gods, they would probably have no problems doing so
But then again for the person dreaming, it will be a dream, and it is hard to trace, if it was so in the first place ....

But truly possible...

I'm with Augusta, I don't doubt they can enter the dreams of others, humans or otherkin. They would probably not do it with random people, but only for higher purposes. Actually, nothing they do is ever random... it may only seem that way out of their cryptic nature.

Daniel09 wrote:Well, the useless thread has spurred what I feel could be good conversation. What do we here think about gods entering peoples' dreams and telling them things are simply interacting? Equally with Asetians, even Horus Himself in whatever form He chooses to be. I know from the AB that Asetians are very good at dream-walking, so could this imply that they will be able to enter other peoples' dreams?

all One has to do is lower ones Entropy, which increases ones empathy,
to do this one just has to soar towards perfection,through being more and more aware of the dream world, realizing and analysing the things in your dream which anchor a physical one, and than see in your dreams which show you a higher path, this is easy to recongnise
because if you pay attention in your dreams you will than see the parts of your dreams that don't seem real like flying, or controlling ones dreams to create and make things happen,than you will have to become the dream,but before you become the dream,you'll have to dual with your demon or your fear, like when you have a evil entity, and you decide not to run but become its power than consume them,and more and more you notice your fear of not knowing and just plain fear leaves and this is when you kill your inner demon and Ascend to become some type of devilgod,because now you see and feel and know how your plasma or mana is everything and a real power, so at this stage you have a choice to remain a devilgod and take the responsibillty of conveying the way or the message to the worthy which than give them the serpent kiss through evolution of ones ka and ba,and the proper grounding to wus. and i like to add there is a higher plane which does not even resemble the physical one, because this is only darlight and Consciousness,the one mind.the normal Asetian does not deal in these higher planes,of Consciousness, but I think the Primorials can. but "back to the topic" then one would have the connection to speak to gods in other realms, because than you would of had found the door inside that leads you outside of your person,places and things,but it is securely guarded by your inner daemons which tends to keep the spirit grounded and hevy by a circle of fear.

So long story short you would have to create the connection in stead of wondering if there is a way for the gods or higher beings to communicate with you. kill fear and create, be like the nike advertisement and just do it, and here is for more info do you know nike is really named after the angel of victory, nike

no disrespect to nike , but I meant the goddes of victory.

I do not agree with this!

N.Augusta wrote:I do not agree with this!

well to each it's own because you have the will to choose what you want to believe in, and i was just giving food for thought. I wanted to to share my experiences, on how I get out of my inner realms, and communicate with the hidden god serpent inside ones self which is guarded by the ego or fear. so these things worked for me lowering my entropy helped. and some words by the Aset ka org.

Just a small note directly from the Aset Ka to anyone seriously and maturely seeking the true Asetian knowledge.

There is no Asetian, or anyone else involved directly with the Aset Ka workings, teachings and projects, exposing or debating information related with Magick, Vampirism or Spirituality, anywhere outside of the Order's internal and official network, temples and havens.
This is the first rule of thumb for those that are new into this kind of knowledge and are interested in developing themselves, focusing on the importance to stay out of all the fuss and noise that always wanders around the Aset Ka thematics and everywhere where Asetianism is mentioned or debated.
For your own evolution, stay away from the majority of the nullity that can be found around the subject and keep a strong, decided, unshakable Will towards Illumination.
There are no Asetian products being sold in stores, there are no Order members making comments in forums and there are no publicly accessible Aset Ka havens. Do not let yourself be fooled by ignorance.

Omar, you must properly cite when copying the work of others, as not doing so is disrespectful and misleading. Perhaps someone new may read your post here and think that you are representing the AK, because you failed, or chose not to, properly cite what you pasted from the AK website.

FYI: It would be appreciated if you would keep your responses to the topics at hand. This particular thread, had to do with opinions on if Gods can enter our dreams. Continuously, you are making posts (some double, triple, quadruple) that lead the threads (even old threads) very off topic.

Feel free to start your own threads. Thanks!

N.Augusta wrote:Omar, you must properly cite when copying the work of others, as not doing so is disrespectful and misleading. Perhaps someone new may read your post here and think that you are representing the AK, because you failed, or chose not to, properly cite what you pasted from the AK website.

FYI: It would be appreciated if you would keep your responses to the topics at hand. This particular thread, had to do with opinions on if Gods can enter our dreams. Continuously, you are making posts (some double, triple, quadruple) that lead the threads (even old threads) very off topic.

Feel free to start your own threads. Thanks!

i never used any disrespect TO ASET KA I said Just a small note directly from the Aset Ka.
and my post has everything to do with the topic, I am sorry if i OFFENDED YOU BY
sharing my posts don't want to scare you by knowing how to get out box and sharing the way it worked for me on how Gods can enter our dreams,and not being afraid when its time to journey further and know more.

N.Augusta wrote:I do not agree with this!

From GodmanOmar777 To N.Augusta, Today at 6:06 am
hey were here to learn from each other, no need to follow, but perfect ones self. by teaching and learning, if your closed minded, why did you come here for. I came here to share and learn, this is how we perfect our self's by evoleing
and changing. are you scared of the dark? are you scared of me? because i fear nothing. and i will continue to help neophytes in my posts by explaining how i bridge the gap, and sharing my personal experience with you all about the craft, so every one only take and keep what you find useful, but always find your own way back home. no matter what kin you are. find what works for you.

GodmanOmar777 wrote:

N.Augusta wrote:I do not agree with this!

From GodmanOmar777 To N.Augusta, Today at 6:06 am
hey were here to learn from each other, no need to follow, but perfect ones self. by teaching and learning, if your closed minded, why did you come here for. I came here to share and learn, this is how we perfect our self's by evoleing
and changing. are you scared of the dark? are you scared of me? because i fear nothing. and i will continue to help neophytes in my posts by explaining how i bridge the gap, and sharing my personal experience with you all about the craft, so every one only take and keep what you find useful, but always find your own way back home. no matter what kin you are. find what works for you.

Who do you consider neophytes ???

Sincerely Divine 277

Daniel, I understood your effort, and I am sorry to you and to the other members, that this has turned into another useless thread.

I'm sorry ass well, I'm just to damned curious.

Sincerely Divine 277

Divine 277 wrote:

GodmanOmar777 wrote:

N.Augusta wrote:I do not agree with this!

From GodmanOmar777 To N.Augusta, Today at 6:06 am
hey were here to learn from each other, no need to follow, but perfect ones self. by teaching and learning, if your closed minded, why did you come here for. I came here to share and learn, this is how we perfect our self's by evoleing
and changing. are you scared of the dark? are you scared of me? because i fear nothing. and i will continue to help neophytes in my posts by explaining how i bridge the gap, and sharing my personal experience with you all about the craft, so every one only take and keep what you find useful, but always find your own way back home. no matter what kin you are. find what works for you.

Who do you consider neophytes ???

Sincerely Divine 277

the neo's are the beginners or newcomers.

GodmanOmar777 wrote:

Divine 277 wrote:

GodmanOmar777 wrote:

N.Augusta wrote:I do not agree with this!

From GodmanOmar777 To N.Augusta, Today at 6:06 am
hey were here to learn from each other, no need to follow, but perfect ones self. by teaching and learning, if your closed minded, why did you come here for. I came here to share and learn, this is how we perfect our self's by evoleing
and changing. are you scared of the dark? are you scared of me? because i fear nothing. and i will continue to help neophytes in my posts by explaining how i bridge the gap, and sharing my personal experience with you all about the craft, so every one only take and keep what you find useful, but always find your own way back home. no matter what kin you are. find what works for you.

Who do you consider neophytes ???

Sincerely Divine 277

the neo's are the beginners or newcomers.

N.Augusta is not a newcomer, or a beginner, in this community.

And...it doesn't stop!

From GodmanOmar777 To N.Augusta, Yesterday at 6:18 pm
this is useless. no need to post these type of things unless you were helping ohters but I think this was just a remark that also added to your posts counts,and it did not not help anybody unfortunately so stop. Daniel, I understood your effort, and I am sorry to you and to
the other members, that this has turned into another useless thread.

Omar, I need not your permission to apologize to the fine members of this mature community. I do not appreciate your efforts on this thread, nor your private messages. If I say nothing, then you will continue. If I say something, then you will continue.

Harassment is not tolerated here, and I do not take kindly to it.

Jonathan wrote:

GodmanOmar777 wrote:

Divine 277 wrote:

GodmanOmar777 wrote:

N.Augusta wrote:I do not agree with this!

From GodmanOmar777 To N.Augusta, Today at 6:06 am
hey were here to learn from each other, no need to follow, but perfect ones self. by teaching and learning, if your closed minded, why did you come here for. I came here to share and learn, this is how we perfect our self's by evoleing
and changing. are you scared of the dark? are you scared of me? because i fear nothing. and i will continue to help neophytes in my posts by explaining how i bridge the gap, and sharing my personal experience with you all about the craft, so every one only take and keep what you find useful, but always find your own way back home. no matter what kin you are. find what works for you.

Who do you consider neophytes ???

Sincerely Divine 277

the neo's are the beginners or newcomers.

N.Augusta is not a newcomer, or a beginner, in this community.

Who do you consider neophytes ??? i said beginners or newcomers and I never called N.augusta a newcomer

N.Augusta wrote:And...it doesn't stop!

From GodmanOmar777 To N.Augusta, Yesterday at 6:18 pm
this is useless. no need to post these type of things unless you were helping ohters but I think this was just a remark that also added to your posts counts,and it did not not help anybody unfortunately so stop. Daniel, I understood your effort, and I am sorry to you and to
the other members, that this has turned into another useless thread.

Omar, I need not your permission to apologize to the fine members of this mature community. I do not appreciate your efforts on this thread, nor your private messages. If I say nothing, then you will continue. If I say something, then you will continue.

Harassment is not tolerated here, and I do not take kindly to it.

and I think you ment Private message because I Only sent you One.
cause I was trying to keep this talk off a active thread about gods in dreams

Well, I have a question concerning the topic. Did you ever had dreams with Egyptian Gods, besides Aset?

I have another question:

How do YOU see a god/goddess ?
How do you know it is a goddess/ god ?


Explanation: Well, if you have dream t about a god or goddess ... how do you know that it is in fact that ... Dreams are also a big part or ouer own perception of our own imaginations, fears , wishes and so on ....

I mean, do you rely think its like in the Christian bible, where god says to the "humans" (in the book): behold I am your god ...
OR : bow, cause you are in the presence of god....

Or something like that ... to me that would be quite arrogant, not at all respecting the creation of life, and the power of free will ( that in this cause "he " has created, both the law and the "Universe" ) ........

But then again that just how I see the human perception they have on gods .... ( the bible was written by men ).

Sincerely Divine 277

AndreiaLi wrote:Well, I have a question concerning the topic. Did you ever had dreams with Egyptian Gods, besides Aset?

I have no idea of if they were so called gods, but Yes I have talked to 2 characters that looks like they where from ancient Egypt... about 3 years ago ++.... In a dream, inside a big "rock " like thing in the middle of the sea some where...

They told me something , cant remember what it was tho :S
But I know It was something I was Not meant to forget .... ( to bad for me right ...lol.)

Sincerly Divine 277

AndreiaLi wrote:Well, I have a question concerning the topic. Did you ever had dreams with Egyptian Gods, besides Aset?

I've actually never had a dream with an Egyptian god, or any god for that matter. I "suspect", however, that Anubis joined one of my dreams. There were a lot of dogs around him and he brought up the Asetian Bible.

I have dreamed with Anubis several times... I dreamt that we were both talking in a very dark place with no light (I imagine it could have been Duat) and some other things I won't write in here due to a very personal nature.
Two people that are/were very intimate to me, have told me they have dreamed with him too. One in somekind of "nightmare" and the other in a more "neutral" way. Ãnd it's funny, because I have stoped seeing the first person that had the "nightmare" because he did bad things to me that have ruined our relationship.